Display Photo Dimension when cropping.

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Participant ,
Jan 21, 2022 Jan 21, 2022

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Simple thing:

 

When Cropping the dimensions of the image/photo (in pixels) should be displayed in the UI.

This would allow us to crop precisely.

 

This is a standard in the photographic  industry and LR doesn't have it.

It's a must do.

 

 

P.S.

(If this was alsed already I am sorry, I searched and nothing come up)

 

 

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LEGEND ,
Jan 22, 2022 Jan 22, 2022

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Cropping the dimensions of the image/photo (in pixels)

Cropping in LrC is proportonal not by pixel.

 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 22, 2022 Jan 22, 2022

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Further, the crop and pixels never come into reality until you export the image. At that point, you can define how many pixels, the same, less or more, you want from that crop.


Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"

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Participant ,
Jan 22, 2022 Jan 22, 2022

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This is available in many, many other softwares.

 

And we can already display the dimensions with an Info Window BUT that's a workaround, that's not the proper way.

 

 

 

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LEGEND ,
Jan 22, 2022 Jan 22, 2022

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Many other post processing programs are destructive, LrC is non destructive, big difference. What you want, to actually crop to specific dimensions is destructive.

 

 

 

 

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Participant ,
Jan 22, 2022 Jan 22, 2022

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See screenshot of Lr Crop with the Info Window.

 

Cropping.jpg

 With a workaround we have it but it's not good at all because at today that info does not update in real time, as we crop, but only updates when we relase the crop.

The dimensions info shoudlbe diplyed by default, in the Crop UI...even Dropbox does it right while Lr fails to do it.Crop Dropbox.jpg

Another major raw editor, that allows non destuctive workflow diplays the dimensions of the iamge while croppin, in real time, seamless, flawless...it works and it is great.

 

Lr is missing this for no real reason.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 22, 2022 Jan 22, 2022

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There are plenty of reasons LR and ACR doesn't do it. They have been provided. What other non Adobe products do is kind of moot and the Adobe teams don't follow, they lead.


Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"

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Jan 22, 2022 Jan 22, 2022

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We can have the pixel dimension dispalyed but not by default and the info it's not not updated in real time.

 

So it's just a matter of implementing it better ergo my suggestion.

 

 

 

 

 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 22, 2022 Jan 22, 2022

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So it's just a matter of implementing it better ergo my suggestion.
By @C.Cella

You are entitlted to make such requests. Two of us have discussed why it might not ever happen. We now wait and see.

Nothing in software creation is simple and I say that as an actual software developer within the Adobe Ecosystem.


Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"

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LEGEND ,
Jan 22, 2022 Jan 22, 2022

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You could try this plugin.    https://johnrellis.com/lightroom/anycrop.htm

I agree with the others.  Crop to aspect, export to pixel dimensions.

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Jan 22, 2022 Jan 22, 2022

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I already use Any-Crop Plug-in.

 

Unfortunately Any Crop cannot be displayed above LR, and the only workaround is to reduce Lr widow so to dispaly them side to side...it's not really great for me to work with a reduced LR as I don't have a big enough monitor.

 

But, yes Any Crop has the feature I am suggesting.

 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 23, 2022 Jan 23, 2022

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The request is valid.

 

There are some objections along the lines of “Lightroom doesn’t work that way,” but it does. The objections are based on Lightroom Classic not fixing an image to any real world measurement, such as inches, until export.

 

That is true. But that is not what this request is about.

 

This request is about displaying the pixel dimensions that will result if the mouse was to be released during a specific moment during an interactive crop, not about post-export dimensions (so the Any Crop plug-in does not help). A photo has a definite width and height in pixels recorded at capture…no one can deny this. And after a Lightroom Classic crop, the photo has a smaller effective width and height in exact pixels; no one can deny that either. Lightroom Classic already knows what those values are, because it’s exactly the values that will be applied and reported after the mouse button is released. They are not some future rendered dimensions, they are the exact pixel dimensions Lightroom Classic stores in the database and shows you in the Info overlay.

 

The lack of this feature, combined with the lack of being able to crop when magnified, and the lack of being able to enter exact crop pixel dimensions, makes precise cropping much more difficult than it has to be in Lightroom Classic, and far more difficult than in other applications. Because of those things it’s exasperating to try and edit an existing crop by an exact number of pixels. I would go as far to say that the general lack of precision of the interactive cropping UI in Lightroom Classic makes that part of the application seem about 20–25 years older than it is.

 

There really is no excuse not to report crop dimensions during the edit in real time, in a modern image editing application. 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 24, 2022 Jan 24, 2022

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Sorry Conrad, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

LR (and ACR) are parameric editors. No resulting pixels are produced until the instructions and original are together rendered. A crop is no different. Plus, one can crop in LR and export any number of resulting pixels based on the export presets. Even multiple pixels and resulting documents from that ONE crop at the same time. The crop is a  proportion of the preview which itself has differing pixels but that's moot too.

Maybe ACR could show this as at the very least, the workflow options for the subsequent rendering are shown to the user; the user set that up first. But I doubt that will happen either. It might, in ACR, which would be a sign it may, repeat may migrate to LR but I seriously doubt it will based on the replies thus far and the history of how parametric edits being pixel agnostic have been from day one.

You can of course upvote as can others. But I don't see the pont and expressed they whys. Not an excuse, as designed and for some very good reasons.

Magnified cropping is a totally different subject and request.


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LEGEND ,
Jan 24, 2022 Jan 24, 2022

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"This request is about displaying the pixel dimensions that will result if the mouse was to be released during a specific moment during an interactive crop, not about post-export dimensions (so the Any Crop plug-in does not help). "

 

The Any Crop plugin does indeed show the pixel dimensions of the current crop interactively as you adjust the crop. But the downside, as C.Cella alluded, is that the LR SDK doesn't allow plugins to keep floating windows on top. So to see the current dimensions as you adjust the crop, you have to adjust the LR main window to allow Any Crop to peek through on the side.   See the attached screen recording for an example.

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LEGEND ,
Jan 24, 2022 Jan 24, 2022

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The forum no longer lets me attach files to replies -- here's the screen recording of Any Crop:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2psdq4fg8kjqafj/anycrop-dimensions.2022.01.24.mov?dl=0

 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 24, 2022 Jan 24, 2022

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The Any Crop plugin does indeed show the pixel dimensions of the current crop interactively as you adjust the crop.

 

Thanks John, I was mistaken about that (haven’t tried that plug-in yet, so I thought it was only about exporting).

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LEGEND ,
Jan 24, 2022 Jan 24, 2022

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A Question.  Why would you want or need to crop to specific pixel dimensions for the original image?  It can't be for any asthetic reason.  There may be some reason I can't even imagine but I am guessing it is very rare that this is done/needed. For the few that need this there is AnyCrop.  

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Participant ,
Jan 24, 2022 Jan 24, 2022

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As I crop an Image it would be useful to me to know precisely how much I am cropping in real time.

 

It's an extra level of precision.

 

Knowing that I am cropping exactly 1-10-100-1000 pixels is more useful than guessing and or cropping back and forth because the Info window doesn't update in real time.

 

Again we already have the cropped dimensions displayable in LR but it's not done right, so it's just a matter of doing it right.

 

 

 

 

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Jan 24, 2022 Jan 24, 2022

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As I crop an Image it would be useful to me to know precisely how much I am cropping in real time.

By @C.Cella

So now you want a percentage of crop, not pixels? 


Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"

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