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P: Presets including raw profiles are sometimes available for non-raws, sometimes not

LEGEND ,
Apr 15, 2018 Apr 15, 2018

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[LR 8.1 now displays partially compatible presets in grey italics, which will avoid the confusion experienced by many users:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-presets-including-raw-profiles-are-...]

Presets including raw profiles via Treatment & Profile are sometimes visible in the Presets panel when a non-raw is selected, sometimes not.  This is confusing.

- Presets including DCP raw profiles are visible for non-raws (Adobe Standard and all Camera Matching profiles).

- Presets including enhanced raw profiles are not visible for non-raws (Adobe Color, Monochrome, Landscape, Neutral, Portrait, Vivid).

This is clearly inconsistent behavior, since none of these raw profiles can actually be applied to non-raws.  LR should either hide all such presets for non-raws or make them all available, ignoring the raw profile when the preset is applied to a non-raw.

I think it should make them all available for non-raws, given this use case: People often click the Check All button when creating a preset.  When they round-trip a raw to Photoshop and get back a TIFF, they expect that such a preset should be applicable to the TIFF as much as to a raw, not remembering or knowing they clicked Treatment and Profile.

If LR makes none of these raw-profile-containing presets available for non-raws, then that will create another most frequent FAQ, "Why can't I see my preset?", analogous to "Where are the lens profiles?".

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Adobe Employee , Apr 17, 2018 Apr 17, 2018
This behavior is intentional - presets specifying DCP profiles—such as Adobe Standard, the camera matching profiles (with names starting with "Camera"), and third party DCP profiles—are not filtered out on non-raw files. This is to not destroy the workflows established in previous versions of the software which didn't do any preset filtering at all.

In the future, we may add a preference to also hide presets that apply DCP based profiles on non-raw images rather than just ignoring the profile set...

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LEGEND ,
Nov 12, 2018 Nov 12, 2018

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Another person confused by LR silently hiding inapplicable presets: 
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/presets-disappear-for-dngs

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Adobe Employee ,
Dec 11, 2018 Dec 11, 2018

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Updates to the Lightroom CC Ecosystem and Lightroom Classic CC were released earlier today. Please update your software and let us know if you are still experiencing this issue. 
Rikk Flohr - Customer Advocacy: Adobe Photography Products

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LEGEND ,
Dec 13, 2018 Dec 13, 2018

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Excellent, LR 8.1 by default shows these "partially compatible" presets (containing raw profiles) as grey italics in the Presets panel:
https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/whats-new.html#main-pars_text_848740471 

This will avoid a large number of users getting confused and asking "Where are my presets?"

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