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P: Read and write video metadata into video or sidecar

Community Beginner ,
Jan 18, 2012 Jan 18, 2012

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The new Video part is great! I really like the previews.It is a great addition to sort and tag your video's. Only one problem:The tagging system doesn't work properly, it doesn't store the tags in the video-files like it is possible with the photo's. I hope this will be working in the Final.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 19, 2012 Oct 19, 2012

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LR 4.2 does not read GPS data from my iPhone 4 videos, reads wrong capture data (shifted by 2h). Both problems do not occur with simple iPhone JPEGs.

Other external software does read this video metadata information correctly.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 20, 2012 Oct 20, 2012

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I have not idea why Adobe doesn't read video metadata!

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LEGEND ,
Oct 20, 2012 Oct 20, 2012

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this was a problem in LR 3 too, and Adobe added more video functionality into LR 4 but conveniently skipped this. Google Picasa does this for free!

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Enthusiast ,
Nov 04, 2012 Nov 04, 2012

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Even if Lightroom (4.2) can't write to THM sidecar files, there doesn't seem to any reason it couldn't at least read all the exif & iptc fields. I set the IPTC "Title" field using a separate program (exiftool), and it causes me many problems that Lightroom can't read this field for my .MOV files, and maintains a separate, unsynchronized value for this field.

exiftool is a free and highly tested tool that Adobe could easily add to Lightroom to handle cases where their team hasn't gotten around to writing the code, I wish that Adobe would use it (or write their own code) so that video is a "first class" citizen in Lightroom.

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 04, 2012 Nov 04, 2012

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That is a good comment, thanks. Did you click the +1 at the top ".... people have this problem". Maybe if we get enough hits, Adobe will finally address this problem.

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Contributor ,
Nov 19, 2012 Nov 19, 2012

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One can only hope that the LIghtroom development team will get the resources necessary to follow the current metadata standards that are already being used in Premier and Final Cut Pro X.

-louie

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Nov 19, 2012 Nov 19, 2012

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Hey In case anyone is interested here is the Final Cut Pro XML format specification pdf

I'm sure that there is a similar document for Premier and Avid.

-louie

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Explorer ,
Dec 16, 2012 Dec 16, 2012

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The fact that LR can't save metadata to video files is a severe limitation and makes it next to useless for video processing. I don't understand really why? Bridge can do it, why not Lightroom? I understand that there maybe performance penalties but that can be dealt with by some "batch syncing" to files.

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New Here ,
Feb 14, 2013 Feb 14, 2013

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In reality, the video was taken last week. The camera is a Samsung TL350, so it is not that old, and the files are in MP4 format. Attached are two screenshots, one showing Lightroom's idea that the video is from 1945, and another from Windows showing that the file was created on 1/29/2013 at 6 pm.

Is there at least a workaround for this? Right now, I have to copy these files manually, or Lightroom puts them in wacky folders based on random, ancient dates.



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LEGEND ,
Feb 14, 2013 Feb 14, 2013

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From the original thread:

LR has problems creating folders organized by capture time (there are other threads here and in the user-to-user forum on that topic).

Finally, that the time is off by 68 years indicates a very specific bug, the use of a 32- bit variable rather than a 64-bit variable to hold a time value. A signed 32-bit integer can only represent the number of seconds equivalent to +/- 68 years. There was a similar bug in LR 3 for Mac:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/3701469

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Enthusiast ,
Apr 08, 2013 Apr 08, 2013

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I have decided to use the following as a temporary work-around to this problem:

Canon, at least, creates a thm file for every movie file. A thm file stores some of the metadata associated with the movie file (like date/time), and can be used to store other any other IPTC metadata like location, latitude/longitude. Lightroom, of course ignores the thm file. However if you duplicate the thm files as jpg files (I have an applescript that does this), then Lightroom will at least treat the jpg files as "first class" citizens, allowing you to save metadata in them, and write metadata to them from other programs.

If you use other programs to change metadata in your image files (like georeferencing) or if you just like to have the metadata saved with the image so you can share it with other people and other programs, the "JPEG sidecar" is at least a partial solution.

For Mac users, the following AppleScript will duplicate all thm files in a directory to jpg files.

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set theFolder to choose folder with prompt "Choose a folder of thm files."
tell application "Finder" to set thmFiles to files of theFolder whose name extension is "THM"

repeat with f in thmFiles
set src to POSIX path of (f as text)
set dest to ((characters 1 thru -4 of src) as text) & "jpg"
set whatIwouldDo to "cp " & quoted form of src & " " & quoted form of dest
try
do shell script whatIwouldDo
end try
end repeat

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LEGEND ,
Apr 08, 2013 Apr 08, 2013

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This is the technique that the Any File plugin uses -- it creates a "proxy" JPEG thumbnail that gets imported into the catalog, and it transfers all metadata from the video file or its sidecars (e.g. .thm's) to the proxy file. Any metadata changes you make in lightroom are written to the proxy JPEG.

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Enthusiast ,
Apr 08, 2013 Apr 08, 2013

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Yes, of course, John, I should have mentioned Any File as another (great) solution.

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Contributor ,
Nov 25, 2013 Nov 25, 2013

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Already to 5.3 RC and no change... It won't even read basic media info that is easy to read using exiftool.

It continues to be frustrating the Adobe cannot seem to spare the resources to handle some of this basic metadata support. Just look at the endless and as of yet unanswered requests for better keyword management too.

-louie

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 10, 2014 Jan 10, 2014

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Like Louis, I'm on 5.3, and cannot manage my videos correctly. The Capture Time is all messed up, and there is a LOT of manual editing required. Then, even after i manually update the capture time, the file renaming function pulls from date/time digitized, so then there's more manual work required. Very frustrating!

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New Here ,
Jan 27, 2014 Jan 27, 2014

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Same here. Lightroom 5.3 and struggling hard to work with capture time for my videos. Things get even more complicated when trying to export videos to flickr since flickr is not very good either, at handling capture date...

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 08, 2014 Jul 08, 2014

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It is frustrating when importing gigabytes of pictures & videos to have to then manually sort of the video dates!

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LEGEND ,
Jul 24, 2014 Jul 24, 2014

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I never used to use LR for managing videos until recently. I was surprised, like everyone else here, that LR doesn't deal with metadata for videos at all.

1. At minimum, it should save title, description and year.
2. If the video format doesn't support meta-data, write it into the XMP (or even just skip it, I wouldn't care in those cases). Most modern video formats support it though (mov, mp4, m4v).

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LEGEND ,
Dec 08, 2014 Dec 08, 2014

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Amazing they haven't done anything yet about this.
I feel I may have lost a lot of time tagging my videos.

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LEGEND ,
Dec 13, 2014 Dec 13, 2014

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I also would like to be able to change the "Date Digitised" Metadata.

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Dec 13, 2014 Dec 13, 2014

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LEGEND ,
May 06, 2015 May 06, 2015

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Question maybe its been covered. when importing stills and video from my Canon power shot G15. the stills will have for example exif date and time 09:00am (time taken) but if I have a video shortly after say taken at 9:05am the create date may show 09:05 but exif has a 4 hr difference of 13:05. I looked at video file in Canon software and don't see a issue. just when looking at LR catalog listing I have to alter time for the .MOV files. I tried test with my 60D and 70D and it appears to be ok. anyone else have this problem? Is it LR6CC or me?

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LEGEND ,
May 06, 2015 May 06, 2015

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Question maybe its been covered. when importing stills and video from my Canon power shot G15. the stills will have for example exif date and time 09:00am (time taken) but if I have a video shortly after say taken at 9:05am the create date may show 09:05 but exif has a 4 hr difference of 13:05. I looked at video file in Canon software and don't see a issue. just when looking at LR catalog listing I have to alter time for the .MOV files. I tried test with my 60D and 70D and it appears to be ok. anyone else have this problem? Is it LR6CC or me?

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Explorer ,
May 06, 2015 May 06, 2015

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Adobe has acknowledged they never finished their support of video metadata in LR.

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Contributor ,
May 06, 2015 May 06, 2015

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It is too bad that Adobe seems to be unable to marshal any resources to address this issue or any other metadata enhancements.

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