Lightroom: Exclude some sliders from Previous button

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 12, 2011 Apr 12, 2011

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The Previous button in Develop is a massive time-saver, however I wish there was a dialog to exclude specific settings, as there is with Sync or Copy.

I would particularly like to exclude Red Eye, which is very rarely in the same place in the next photo and leaves odd grey dots that aren't immediately noticeable.

I would also like to exclude Crop, as I often crop first and then go back and apply Develop adjustments later.
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Mentor ,
Apr 12, 2011 Apr 12, 2011

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I think there would need to be some simple way to have it work instantly as it does now without the sync dialog popping up, and only have the dialog pop up when you want it do. I'm not that fond of "hidden" features like holding down a modifier during a click or something (LR has tons of these) unless there's some text somewhere indicating such a feature is available when you are using it without the modifier. So I'm not sure of the UI but I do support the idea in general.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 12, 2011 Apr 12, 2011

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Agreed, I wouldn't want it popping up the dialog each time either. Considering Alt-clicking works all over the place, I'd consider doing an Alt-click to show the dialog, and then it'd be a set it and forget it dialog most of them time. Perhaps change the button text to 'selective previous' when not all checkboxes are checked, just as a visual reminder.
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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 12, 2011 Apr 12, 2011

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I can see the merits for red eye and spots but implementation ......mmmmmmm

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People's Champ ,
Apr 12, 2011 Apr 12, 2011

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Without talking about how to implement it, I would also love to see some selection of corrections applied by "Previous". I'll leave the implementation to the GUI specialists ....

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LEGEND ,
May 03, 2011 May 03, 2011

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Very good idea. Adjustment brush strokes are rarely transferable across images either (maybe the suggested "move brush stroke sets"-FR would help).

I'm not sure whether it is worth creating a bug report for this but does anyone else have the problem that the "Previous" button often fails to work? Just moving between some images seems to inactivate it many times, while I'd still be able to reuse the last set of image edits I created.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 03, 2011 May 03, 2011

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I use it constantly and I've never seen it fail, so if you can narrow down some reproducible steps it'd be worth repeating.
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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 03, 2011 May 03, 2011

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I use it constantly and I've never seen it fail, so if you can narrow down some reproducible steps it'd be worth repeating.
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LEGEND ,
May 05, 2011 May 05, 2011

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While trying to reproduce the problem, I found out that I had a different idea of what "Previous" means compared to the implementation.

I understood it to refer to "previous edits", however it means "edits of previously selected image".

With my earlier understanding I expected to be able to do the following:
1. Make edits to image "A".
2. Use the cursor keys to move to another image "C", visiting image "B" on the way.
3. Press "Previous" and thus copy the edits I performed on image "A" to image "C".

This didn't work as I expected since the intermediate visit to image "B" causes the "Previous" reference to be directed to "B" rather than "A".

Because in my scenarios image "B" almost always has no edits at all, pressing "Previous" for image "C" seemed to have no effect at all.

Now that I understand that "Previous" refers to "edits of the previously selected image" rather than "edits of the previously edited image", I can make better use of the button.

Not entirely sure which of the two behaviors (my earlier expectation vs the actual) is more intuitive / makes more sense.

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LEGEND ,
May 05, 2011 May 05, 2011

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While trying to reproduce the problem, I found out that I had a different idea of what "Previous" means compared to the implementation.

I understood it to refer to "previous edits", however it means "edits of previously selected image".

With my earlier understanding I expected to be able to do the following:
1. Make edits to image "A".
2. Use the cursor keys to move to another image "C", visiting image "B" on the way.
3. Press "Previous" and thus copy the edits I performed on image "A" to image "C".

This didn't work as I expected since the intermediate visit to image "B" causes the "Previous" reference to be directed to "B" rather than "A".

Because in my scenarios image "B" almost always has no edits at all, pressing "Previous" for image "C" seemed to have no effect at all.

Now that I understand that "Previous" refers to "edits of the previously selected image" rather than "edits of the previously edited image", I can make better use of the button.

Not entirely sure which of the two behaviors (my earlier expectation vs the actual) is more intuitive / makes more sense.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 05, 2011 May 05, 2011

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It's called read the manual !! It has always worked this way.

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May 05, 2011 May 05, 2011

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It's called read the manual !! It has always worked this way.

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LEGEND ,
May 05, 2011 May 05, 2011

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Geoff, I belong to the rare species that actually reads manuals. Admittedly, I haven't made it through all of the LR manual yet since I find that I learned enough about LR from many sources to use it effectively. It never occurred to me that "Previous" could mean anything else but "previous edits". Since LR had/has many similar little issues, I simply assumed that there is a bug. Are you consulting the LR manual every time you discover anomalous behaviour to verify whether it is "as intended"?

Yes, I could have helped myself earlier by reading the relevant part in the manual, but I have difficulty to categorize your comment as "friendly".

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LEGEND ,
May 05, 2011 May 05, 2011

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Geoff, I belong to the rare species that actually reads manuals. Admittedly, I haven't made it through all of the LR manual yet since I find that I learned enough about LR from many sources to use it effectively. It never occurred to me that "Previous" could mean anything else but "previous edits". Since LR had/has many similar little issues, I simply assumed that there is a bug. Are you consulting the LR manual every time you discover anomalous behaviour to verify whether it is "as intended"?

Yes, I could have helped myself earlier by reading the relevant part in the manual, but I have difficulty to categorize your comment as "friendly".

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 05, 2011 May 05, 2011

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I can't find the smiley's here !!

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LEGEND ,
May 05, 2011 May 05, 2011

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Here's one: ":-)". 🙂

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LEGEND ,
Jul 20, 2011 Jul 20, 2011

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Yes, please let's have the option to exclude crop from the Previous menu. 🙂

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LEGEND ,
Jul 20, 2011 Jul 20, 2011

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I also would love to have the option to exclude crop when applying Previous settings. Love Previous, but rarely wish to carry the crop forward. 🙂

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LEGEND ,
Aug 26, 2011 Aug 26, 2011

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I just created a feature request for a "Last" button. The idea is that the "Last" button refers to the settings of the image last edited rather than the settings of the image last visited. This "Last" button should have the same option to prevent certain edit settings (e.g., adjustment brushes) permanently from being copied, until one changes the selection again.

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 03, 2012 Feb 03, 2012

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Exactly.

I tend to use Ctrl Alt V rather than the previous button.

When a previous image does have Red-Eye, Crop or Brush Adjustments I have to resort to the Copy Settings dialog and exclude those.

For me It would work better the other way round. Configurable settings for the Paste from Previous sounds great to me. Then for the few that do want extra adjustments applied I can go the Copy Settings route.

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