P:(Masking) How do I make the mask available in Photoshop?

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 28, 2021 Nov 28, 2021

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The AI for masking is brilliant. What would be nicer is if when I send an image to edit in Photoshop, it sends the mask too. After all, it's already created.

 

Alternatley, If I open an image in Photoshop's ACR, and I create a mask, why can't it open with the mask as a layer. It seems, again, since the mask is already created, it should be no problem, barely an inconvience.

 

Thank you for your consideration,

Vito S.

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LEGEND ,
Nov 29, 2021 Nov 29, 2021

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Can you give a more detailed example of why you'd like to access the Sky and Subject mask as separate layers when you open in Photoshop?  The better Adobe understands why you want a feature and how you might use it rather than just what you want, the more likely they'll consider it.

 

(And you do know that Photoshop has Select > Subject and Select > Sky?)

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LEGEND ,
Nov 29, 2021 Nov 29, 2021

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Moderators, @Rikk Flohr: Photography, please move into Ideas.

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 30, 2021 Nov 30, 2021

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The new Subject/Sky masing in CR is MUCH better than the Photoshop internal versions. Plus, I can make masks in LR, make adjustments there (because it's much easier), then do any PS work with the mask already made, coming in from LR with LR edits.

 

As to below msg, sorry, I thought I put this in Ideas.

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 01, 2021 Dec 01, 2021

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Is there any way to convert an image mask created in LRC into a selection of that area for use in PS ??

It would be nice not to have to make the selection again in PS if you already have the area masked off in LRC. 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Dec 01, 2021 Dec 01, 2021

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Unfortunately, not something that we can do at this time, but others have requested it.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Dec 01, 2021 Dec 01, 2021

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Not possible  as a mask on a 'standard' layer, but-

From Lr-Classic: Open in Photoshop as a Smart Object.

The Masking remains available in Photoshop (the CR UI)  if you [Double-click] the Smart Object badge on the Layer which re-opens the image in ACR- with the Masking.

 

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Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 11.3.1 Photoshop 23.3.2, ACR 14.3, Lightroom 5.3, Lr-iOS 7.0.2, Bridge 12.0.2, Windows-10.

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LEGEND ,
Dec 01, 2021 Dec 01, 2021

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There's a roundabout way of converting a LR mask to a PS mask:

 

1. In PS, make a white TIFF the same pixel dimensions as the photo, and import that TIFF into LR.

 

2. Use the Copy Settings plugin to copy the mask from the photo to the white TIFF, using the option Original Sky And Subject Masks.

 

3. In the TIFF, select the mask and set the mask's Exposure = -4.

 

4. Use the Tone Curve to adjust the black point so the mask is mostly black:

johnrellis_0-1638426738492.png

 

5. Edit the photo and TIFF in PS, and copy/paste the TIFF into the layer mask of the desired layer of the photo.

 

That's a lot of steps, which could be mostly automated in the Copy Settings plugin. But Rob_Cullen's suggestion seems more useful.

 

 

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 02, 2021 Dec 02, 2021

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ok, but ACR is basically the same thing as LRC, I'd like to open the selection in PS because I need to do things I can't do in LRC. Being able to use the masked area as a selection in PS would be very helpful. 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Dec 02, 2021 Dec 02, 2021

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This is not what you are asking, but just my thoughts- why do you not do the masking in Photoshop, if you know you want 'masking'.?

It has the same 'Select Subject / sky' functions, and you can brush on masks to add-to or erase masks in adjustment layers.

Also Luminosity masks can be very useful as is Luminance masking in LrC.

 

 

Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 11.3.1 Photoshop 23.3.2, ACR 14.3, Lightroom 5.3, Lr-iOS 7.0.2, Bridge 12.0.2, Windows-10.

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 04, 2021 Dec 04, 2021

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I often need the masks that I created in Lightroom when I edit the same photo in Photoshop. Ideally I could also create named masks in a PSD file and when daverd back to Lightroom I can use tthe masks as well. This feature , obviously would not be available with JPEGs but could be a a part of the PSD format. 

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 05, 2021 Dec 05, 2021

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I often need to adjust the background in a photo with a semi-transparent subject.
In LR I can mask the background with a color mask. The translucent areas inside the subject are also masked, depending on the thickness.
Unfortunately, when I export to PS, these masks are gone. Recreating the same mask in PS is a horror 🙂

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LEGEND ,
Dec 05, 2021 Dec 05, 2021

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Dec 05, 2021 Dec 05, 2021

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I'm not aware of any auto-mask brush feature in PS as there is in LRC. The auto mask feature in LRC saves a lot of headaches selecting subjects or areas of subjects that are extremely tedious to do otherwise. 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Dec 05, 2021 Dec 05, 2021

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Quote, "ok, but ACR is basically the same thing as LRC, I'd like to open the selection in PS because I need to do things I can't do in LRC."

The issue is LrC and ACR, have the same editing features, however they function differently, LrC stores the edit data in the Catalog file and Camera Raw stores the edit data to the file or sidecar file. Camera Raw cannot read info from the Lightroom Catalog. You have to prompt Lightroom to write info to xmp so it is available to Camera Raw.

Lightroom is an independent application and is basically an alternate to Camera Raw which is a plug-in to Photoshop.

There is no need to utilize both Lightroom and Camera Raw.

Just some info and thoughts,

Regards, Denis: iMac mid-2015, 5K 27”, GPU 2GB, Ram 24GB, HDD 3TB, macOS 11.6.5,; LrC 11.3.1, Lr 5.3, Ps 23.3.2-ACR 14.3,; Camera OM-D E-M1.

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LEGEND ,
Dec 09, 2021 Dec 09, 2021

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I released a new version of the Copy Settings plugin with the Extract Masks command. It extracts a photo's masks as grayscale images that can be used in Photoshop as layer masks:

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 16, 2021 Dec 16, 2021

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YES YES and YES!  This would be an awesome add!

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