P: Respect Hierarchical Folders of Presets

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

5 years ago, poster Sean Phillips first suggested this idea. Adobe has officially marked it as "implemented" - however, it is not implemented. Preset subfolders are scanned by LR, however, directory structure is not respected beyond the first level.

This makes preset management kludgy and inefficient. Please correct this by simply allowing the LR preset hierarchy to reflect the subfolder structure in the LR develop preset folder tree.

[webbwork]

I've been waiting for this feature since the very first version of Lightroom.

[msc-photoAndWeb]

It just makes so much good sense to be able to organize presets into a multi-level hierarchical structure. It will speed up my workflow so much to have this. It's really hard to understand why we haven't had this available.

[a.wojtas]

The other thing, is having a Preset Intensity option. I have so many presets that are "Brightness -10" "Brightness 0" "Brightness +10" etc, all could be solved with a simply slider for the intensity of the Preset.

Similar in principle to how some smartphone apps work like Aviary, you apply a filter then drag up and down on image to affect how strong the filter effect is.

[Sean Phillips]

This is a completely different suggestion though. If you want that you should create a new thread for it...  Having said that there is already a plugin available that does this for you:

http://www.capturemonkey.com/thefader/

[Fotostudio1Alt]

Why do you not save your presets with the catalog if you do so you are shure to have in your catalogs only the presets you need for example for landscape only landscape preset for portrait only. ...

[MarcHH]

Come on Adobe... Subfolder Hierarchy in Presets is a must have. I work with a lot of Presets and since Years it is horrible to manage this in LR. Month by Month my Preset Library grows bigger without a Subfolder Hierarchy in Presets i ́ll wasted a lot of time to find the right Preset.

[Sean Phillips]

I do save with with my catalog, however I only use one catalog for all of my images so that's no solution. And it still wouldn't solve the lack of organization...

[AnnaN2013]

Agreed - lets get this.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

If you can, please throw some tweets out there linking back to this thread!

[beng75240728]

I have only been using LR for a few weeks and when I finally got to understanding develop presets the first thing i wanted to do was organise them into subfolders, I couldn't believe that an application such as LR which is all about image management and organisation is missing such a simple implementation, being a computer programmer I find this unbelievable after so many years without listening to their customers requests.

[beng75240728]

One alternative that I may adopt is to edit the individual presets (they're just text files) and prepend a name to the the title area, for example title = "[subfolder name] - [preset name]" obviously without the brackets, atleast they will be in order to easily find what your looking for, not as ideal as a nested hierarchy but better than nothing... just a thought...better yet! I might write a little app that does it automatically.

[Sean Phillips]

Currently presets can be stored in folders, but Lightroom doesn't respect the hierarchy beyond the first level. For example, the following hierarchy would appear with all of the folders on the same level with the top level folders appearing to be empty.

Develop Presets
-Folder 1
--Sub Folder 1.1
---Preset 1.1.1
--Sub Folder 1.2
---Preset 1.2.1
-Folder 2
--Sub Folder 2.1
---Preset 2.1.1
--Sub Folder 2.2
---Preset 2.2.1

The above hiearchy appears as follows:

Develop Presets
-Folder 1
-Sub Folder 1.1
--Preset 1.1.1
-Sub Folder 1.2
--Preset 1.2.1
-Folder 2
-Sub Folder 2.1
--Preset 2.1.1
-Sub Folder 2.2
--Preset 2.2.1

There are many reasons to want to use deeper hierarchies. I keep all the Presets from Matt Klowskowski in one folder, but further subdivided by folders that contain all the presets in the same category (eg. Wedding, B&W, etc). Lightroom ignores the top level folder and shows the subfolders as top level folders.

See the attached image to see the difference between Lightroom and the folders on disc.

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Annoying.

[John R Ellis]

The Any Preset plugin provides completely hierarchical organization of your develop presets, as well as a number of other frequently requested features for presets.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I would appreciate it if I could create subfolders into my preset folders. With a growing number of presets I have to decide between a confusing high number of folders with neatly arranged presets or vice versa. Even one additional level of folders to minimize could tidy up this mess.
Thanks 

[Tobias Schneider]

All I really want are nested preset folders. Come on Adobe, it can't be that hard.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Also, although this screenshot doesn't show it the Kloskowski 'preset/folder' is empty, yet in quick development it is not shown. Since the handling of things in folder hierarchies is a standard object in any programming language the different displays are inexplicable and ridiculously easy to implement.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Just in case there is nobody at adobe who knows how to do this, the following google search will give you pointers and sample code
https://www.google.ca/search?q=programming+object+to+display+folder+contents+in+a+hierarchy&oq=p...

Or look at your own code that displays the collections, it is the same concept.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I can't believe that Adobe still hasn't done this.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

It is absolutely baffling.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

There should be at least one level more.
Now the folder list is to long and need to much vertical scrolling.

[Kelv64]

Hi I was wondering is it possible in Lightroom to have an update so as to be able to make a folder inside a folder similar to what is already in the collections Module

[Kelv64]

I see now that I have asked this question just how many other Adobe customers have been asking the same thing for at least a year, if not longer, so much for listening to your customers adobe, I can take on board that some things take time, and there are many other things also needing attention, but when you have people from the Professional user to someone like me who just uses your product to help with his happy snaps, all asking for the same thing, dont you think you should get your finger out and do something to help...........rant over

[Kelv64]

I now see that many other users have long been asking for this to happen, and nothing has, would it not only be just courteous of Adobe to make some sort of statement here as to why this has not happened or if there is a chance it may or may not, then at least to say so. I look forward to comment

[john beardsworth]

The thing is, Kelvin, maybe it's not that great an idea? Let's say you do have large numbers of presets in multiple level of folders, and let's say Adobe did implement the suggestion as described. So you'd still spend an age looking down one hole - sorry, subfolder - after another until you find the B&W preset you want, or that cross process one or whatever.  There are some B&W presets here, some there etc.  Respecting folder hierarchies just doesn't really gain you much of any value.

What would help is to copy the filter box at the top of Collections and the Keyword List. You could then filter the preset list by entering something like "B&W BW Mono".

[YetAnotherLars]

Hello John

I do not agree with your point of view. Those of us that uses many presets, journalizes them into logical folder structures, and therefore need to be able to subdivide these into sub-folders. I'm not looking around in one folder after another. If the option for subfolders were implemented, I can find the right preset category with a few clicks. And from here my photo workflow is easy.

In the photo club I belong to, we have several times talked about this problem that Adobe will be able to solve with very little effort, so why not fix this small technical issue?

Your suggestion to be able to filter presets are welcome, but I don't believe naming itself is the logical journalizing method. Here you ends up with a complex names syntax!

Best regards

Lars