Can't paste settings to an edited TIF file (edited in Photoshop)

New Here ,
Jul 01, 2021 Jul 01, 2021

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All my images were shot and imported as .dng files (they are a sequence).

A couple of the photos I needed to edit in Photoshop to remove objects etc. I saved and they appear in Lightroom (now as a duplicated TIF file when I check).

The thing is I've edited the regular files and when I try and paste the settings to this new edited file the settings will not paste. I've tried every way of copying them but the settings will not apply to edited files (fine on all other files)

Can someone help?

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LEGEND ,
Jul 01, 2021 Jul 01, 2021

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Edits in PS are burned into the photo. That is, destructive editing. No data as to what was accomplished is kept. LrC sees that resultant image as completely new, unedited (in LrC). Their is no data to read to tell LrC what to do to duplicate.

 

Remember, when you edit in LrC, you are not altering the actual original photo, this is non destructive editing. Edits are simply database records kept in the database file (the catalog), that LrC uses to create the previews you see. All those steps (states) you see in the history panel, are those database records, LrC can use them to sync to other photos. No such history available to LrC from a fresh copy via PS.

 

Followup: I was wrong about OP workflow, so above does not apply

 

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I get that and understand how that works, but I can't understand why I
can't paste edits (the database records) to this new unedited file.

I am making edits to other files (WB, contrast etc). Surely these edits can
be applied to the NEW image that was edited from photoshop?

>From what you're saying it means the solution is to do all edits in
Photoshop AFTER any edits in LrC. This seems crazy as what if I edit
everything and finish, then decide I want to tweak the contrast on the
whole collection. I would only be able to change the 'non-photoshop' files.

Am I missing something?

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LEGEND ,
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NO.
LrC knows what has been done to a file while you are editing in LrC.

It knows nothing about what you have done to a file outside od LeC.Oh, metadata changes can be resolved (metadata conflic) but not edits to the image.

 

PS is a pixal editor. It edits the image pixal by pixal.

PS is a destructive editor, once edited, once saved, no going back.

 

Followup: I was wrong about OP workflow, so above does not apply

 

 

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"I get that and understand how that works, but I can't understand why I can't paste edits (the database records) to this new unedited file."

 

You can definitely copy / synchronize Develop settings between raws, PSDs, TIFFs, JPEGs, and PNGs. A given setting may differ somewhat in its appearance when applied to a raw versus a PSD saved from the raw, but it's usually reasonably close. 


Walk us through what you see when you do the following simple test:

 

1. In LR, select a raw with no Develop settings applied and do Photo > Edit In > Edit In Photoshop.  Immediately save the file in PS (as a TIFF or PSD, depending on your settings).

 

2. In LR, edit the raw in Develop and set its Contrast to +100.

 

3. In Library, select the raw, do Photo > Develop Settings > Copy Settings, and select just Contrast.

 

4. Select the TIFF / PSD, and do Photo > Develop Settings > Paste Settings.

 

5. Does the appearance of the TIFF / PSD's thumbnail change to reflect the contrast?  When you view it in Loupe (type "e"), does its appearance reflect the contrast setting?  When you edit it in Develop, does the Contrast slider show +100?  Does its appearance reflect the contrast setting?

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LEGEND ,
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Either I misunderstood, or I am reading  something into the OP posting. But..

 

I think the OP is editing in PS, Closing, then, selecting that new photo, wants to sync the edits that occurred in PS to other images in LrC. So not Develop mods accomplished in LrC, but in PS.

 

I think the OP workflow is:

Select image in LrC

Click on Edit in PS

Accomplish modifications in PS

Close

In LrC, applies the develop settings in that new photo to other photos

Gets no change

 

Followup: I was wrong about OP workflow, so above does not apply

 

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No that's incorrect. Here is the workflow:

 
Select image in LrC
Click Edit in PS
Make some modifications in PS
Close
In LrC copy develop setting from another photo (a non PS edited file)
Try to paste over the new PS file
No change

I am not trying to sync edits from outside of Lightroom into lightroom.

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So when you follow the steps I posted above, what are the answers to the questions in step 5?

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