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Hi,

we just bought an Eizo screen (Wide Gamut) and have the problem of changing colors (too red) when exporting in LR to sRGB.

Even when we 'softproof' a photo within LR, we get the oversaturation.

- We shoot in Raw

- Import and edit in LR

And after that we want to get more or less the SAME result into a jpeg-format so that it can be transferred over all platforms, browsers, ...

We cannot tell our customers that they need to by/use colormanaged HW/SW to be able to see a nice picture.

How do we have to proceed after editing in LR ???

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Even when we 'softproof' a photo within LR, we get the oversaturation.

I misread this sentence - there should be no need to softproof to sRGB (the image should not change, unless it contains colors which are outside the sRGB gamut), but if doing so shows over saturation, you probably have a defective monitor profile.

And if you also see over saturation in Irfanview with color management enabled, this is a further indication of a defective monitor profile.

To check the monitor profile, set it to Adobe RGB, and restart Lightroom for the change to take effect.

Go to Control panel > Color management, then add the Adobe RGB profile and set it as default.

Make sure Use my settings for this device is checked.

The screenshot below uses sRGB, but since you have a wide gamut monitor, you should use Adobe RGB.

If changing the profile fixes the problem, you should re-calibrate with a hardware calibrator, making sure to create a version 2 profile with Tone curve set to Gamma. (not version 4 and/or LUT) This is using the Color Navigator software that comes with Eizo monitors.

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Export to sRGB => too red

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Hi,

we just bought an Eizo screen (Wide Gamut) and have the problem of changing colors (too red) when exporting in LR to sRGB.

Even when we 'softproof' a photo within LR, we get the oversaturation.

- We shoot in Raw

- Import and edit in LR

And after that we want to get more or less the SAME result into a jpeg-format so that it can be transferred over all platforms, browsers, ...

We cannot tell our customers that they need to by/use colormanaged HW/SW to be able to see a nice picture.

How do we have to proceed after editing in LR ???

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Correct answer by Per Berntsen | Adobe Community Professional

Even when we 'softproof' a photo within LR, we get the oversaturation.

I misread this sentence - there should be no need to softproof to sRGB (the image should not change, unless it contains colors which are outside the sRGB gamut), but if doing so shows over saturation, you probably have a defective monitor profile.

And if you also see over saturation in Irfanview with color management enabled, this is a further indication of a defective monitor profile.

To check the monitor profile, set it to Adobe RGB, and restart Lightroom for the change to take effect.

Go to Control panel > Color management, then add the Adobe RGB profile and set it as default.

Make sure Use my settings for this device is checked.

The screenshot below uses sRGB, but since you have a wide gamut monitor, you should use Adobe RGB.

If changing the profile fixes the problem, you should re-calibrate with a hardware calibrator, making sure to create a version 2 profile with Tone curve set to Gamma. (not version 4 and/or LUT) This is using the Color Navigator software that comes with Eizo monitors.

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The over saturation you see is typical for viewing images in non-color managed applications on a wide gamut monitor.

The only solution is to use only color managed applications, where the images will display correctly.

Most web browsers are fully color managed these days, but there are two notable exceptions - Internet Explorer and Edge.

As for picture viewers - most of them are not color managed, but the free Irfanview is (color management must be enabled under Settings). A good paid color managed image viewer is ACDSee.

On a standard gamut monitor (which is what most people have), there is no over saturation, and images should look more or less correct, as long as the sRGB profile is used when exporting.

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We have installed Irfanview and enabled color management to sRGB, but no difference…

Any other suggestions ? We cannot risk sending too red images to customers !

Van: Per Berntsen

Verzonden: dinsdag 6 februari 2018 16:20

Aan: Ivan Geerts

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Export to sRGB => too red

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The over saturation you see is typical for viewing images in non-color managed applications on a wide gamut monitor.

The only solution is to use only color managed applications, where the images will display correctly.

Most web browsers are fully color managed these days, but there are two notable exceptions - Internet Explorer and Edge.

As for picture viewers - most of them are not color managed, but the free Irfanview is (color management must be enabled under Settings). A good paid color managed image viewer is ACDSee.

 

On a standard gamut monitor (which is what most people have), there is no over saturation, and images should look more or less correct, as long as the sRGB profile is used when exporting.

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Even when we 'softproof' a photo within LR, we get the oversaturation.

I misread this sentence - there should be no need to softproof to sRGB (the image should not change, unless it contains colors which are outside the sRGB gamut), but if doing so shows over saturation, you probably have a defective monitor profile.

And if you also see over saturation in Irfanview with color management enabled, this is a further indication of a defective monitor profile.

To check the monitor profile, set it to Adobe RGB, and restart Lightroom for the change to take effect.

Go to Control panel > Color management, then add the Adobe RGB profile and set it as default.

Make sure Use my settings for this device is checked.

The screenshot below uses sRGB, but since you have a wide gamut monitor, you should use Adobe RGB.

If changing the profile fixes the problem, you should re-calibrate with a hardware calibrator, making sure to create a version 2 profile with Tone curve set to Gamma. (not version 4 and/or LUT) This is using the Color Navigator software that comes with Eizo monitors.

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This RED PROBLEM is happening in LR too much time ago. I tried some solutions in the past with no good news. 

Some time ago I tried Exposure from Aliensoftware, guest what... there is no RED PROBLEM when you export to sRGB. I don't know if other LR like software do the same, but in Esposure is workinf fine.

Is not a monitor problem , no profile, etc. It is LR. 

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Please explain in detail what the problem is.

It's not clear whether images are too red in Lightroom, or in the exported image.

Are you on Mac or Windows?

What is the make and model of your monitor?

In what application are you viewing the exported image?

 

It will also be helpful if you can post screenshots.

Use the Insert photos button in the toolbar.

 

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Stop saying it's answered when all you do is blame it on some irrelevant thing. The red comes up on every single application including my iPhone and Instagram this is unacceptable and needs to be fixed. 

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IF it looks too red on your iPhone, who's OS is color managed, the document is too red. This has nothing to do with Lightroom and everything to do with your document and/or the incorrect calibration of a display hooked up to LR.

 

Again:

You should always test output using good color reference images designed for that task. The color reference images RGB values are such they are set for output and are editing and display agnostic. Test the output this way and examine for the same color issues so we know it's not your image specific issues causing the problems:

http://www.gballard.net/photoshop/pdi_download/
http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html#TestPrint
http://www.digitaldog.net/files/2014PrinterTestFileFlat.tif.zip

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