Failure of import

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I have had superb support from experts who have solved all of my problems, but have now encountered another one. I had a 4.5 gigabyte file of raw photos which started to import properly and then stopped. I didn't know what to do but thought that it was going to demand a massive reorganisation of the file structure so have left lightroom running overnight, but I can find no evidence of the file today. I should mention that I have the file running on a 5 terabyte external drive with nothing else on it. There are still 4.5 terabytes of free space available and the drive is running normally. Is it acceptable to try re importing the file? I wonder whether it has been placed in the wrong location but don't know how to search for it.

This is the largest file I have attempted to import at one time. Previous imports all ran smoothly.

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Failure of import

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I have had superb support from experts who have solved all of my problems, but have now encountered another one. I had a 4.5 gigabyte file of raw photos which started to import properly and then stopped. I didn't know what to do but thought that it was going to demand a massive reorganisation of the file structure so have left lightroom running overnight, but I can find no evidence of the file today. I should mention that I have the file running on a 5 terabyte external drive with nothing else on it. There are still 4.5 terabytes of free space available and the drive is running normally. Is it acceptable to try re importing the file? I wonder whether it has been placed in the wrong location but don't know how to search for it.

This is the largest file I have attempted to import at one time. Previous imports all ran smoothly.

Thanks

Sockit

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“I had a 4.5 gigabyte file ...”

 

Do you mean a 4.5 gigabyte FOLDER ?? Are the other mentions of FILE in your statement really discussing a FOLDER?

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I apologise. Yes I meant folder.

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Did you get an error message or are you not seeing all the images you expected? If you search for some of the images in the folder in "all photographs" do you find them? If so, what happens when you select "Go to Folder in Library" in the found images contextual menu?

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Jao.

Thanks for your reply. I haven't seen an error message they have just
vanished , I will look for them in the folder you mentioned though there
are 43,000  there already and will do the search you recommend.Thanks
for the suggestion.  I will report back

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As these files were already on a hard drive as opposed to on a SD card, Are you trying to copy them to a different folder during LrC import, or were you simply Adding them to the catalog?

 

Difference in the Import dialog options, Copy as DNG, Copy, Move, Add.

 

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Golding Thanks for your reply.  My system is to have all of my files
imported into a holding file.   I then transfer them to a large file
which mimics the catalogue ie it is broken into subfiles by year from
1960 to the present time. These particular photos were from 1993 and I
imported them into the computer as Dec 20 and filed them in the 1993
slot on this big file.  I then went to the 1993 folder in my light room
catalogue and imported (hopefully) the Dec 20 file into that folder.Once
there I would then develop them with Neg Lab Pro and then move the files
into sub folders in the 1993 folder. That has been working fine up to
now, however I wanted to finish 1993 before the holiday and clear up the
mess so I did a big import which seemed to have overloaded the system. 
If I could find a Dec 20 folder somewhere in lightroom that would work
but I don't know how to search for it. I have been looking through the
"All Photos" access to the catalogue but it slows down to a dribble with
the 43000 plus files as I work slowly through it.  I have the numbers of
each of the photos, and If lightroom could search for a photo by its
number that also could work but I don't know if that is possible.

Thanks for your kind help

Sockit

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What do you mean by : "My system is to have all of my files
imported into a holding file.   I then transfer them to a large file
which mimics the catalogue ie it is broken into subfiles by year from
1960 to the present time."

 

What do you consider a "holding file?"   NOrmal process is to 

1. Import images into the LR Catalog -  all that does is "catalog" or make a catalog of the photos where ever they are located, unless you chose MOVE on import.... as Golding said... 

2. Organize the catalog however you choose - by date is great...

3. You can and should back up. your LR Catalog regularly - and that is a setting in the LR preferences.  And do NOT tell Lightroom to put the Catalog Back up on the same drive as the main catalog... I suggest an external drive so that if your internal drive were to have issues, you can still have a copy of. your catalog on a separate drive with all your editing and organization in tact.

4. You can also make backups of your photo files themselves onto a separte drive or location.

Remember, LR catalog does not hold your photos, it just catalogs them, like the library book catalog in a public library.

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I think I have found the problem.

I just have tried importing a file into the catalogue from my 1993 folder. It is a file that I had previously imported and should not have worked. However it did load the files and with tick marks said that they were new pictures. So I clicked on import which occurred. However at the end of this no file had appeared in the catalogue. However I then realised that the system had created a new file called 2020 12 19 and had dumped the photos into that but without the containing file. Looking further I found that all of the recent images I had been trying to import had gone into that folder and back onto my hard drive. Strangely the catalogue entry for the 1993 folder said that there were no images in it even though there was the huge 2020 12 19 folder plus other folder with files that were accessible.

I am thinking that perhaps I should delete the 2020 12 19 folder in the catalogue and on the hard drive and start again, or is there something else going on? Is there some reason why I can't create new folders?

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I hesitated but then decided to remove the 2020 12 19 folder with its hundreds of files. I was told that they would be removed from lightroom but not the hard drive. However suprisingly all the other  folders in the 1993 folder were also removed even though they had been loaded several days prior to the big file that caused this problem and were not subfolders of this lightroom created  2020 12 18 folder. The 1993 folder was completely emptied. I therefor shut down lightroom and restarted it an hour later. I then tried to reimport one of the deleted folders. The photos were displayed but washed out, with the error message that these files were already in lightroom even though they had been deleted an hour earlier.

Is this problem in the 1993 file? I need to reload all of these files into lightroom and then to develop them again. What should I do? The files should not be in lightroom at this time.

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Kentdesign   Thanks for your comments.   I was  trying to explain that I keep a copy of every folder that I load onto the drive in a separate spot from the  large folder that I use for the creation of the catalogue. I do this just in case lightroom damages that folder. I realise that the lightroom catalogue needs to be backed up and do it almost daily because of the big changes I have been making daily to the lightroom catalogue. I have only been using import to add to the catalogue as it filters input and is based on the lightroom folder where I want the new photos and their folders to be stored. I also have a separate NAS which I use for back up and for my final file where I plan to export my catalogue when it is up to date. For some strange reason the Lightroom Catalogue seems to be misbehaving and is not allowing me to import my photos.

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Sockit

 

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Sockit,

 

from your writeup it appears that you used "move" instead of "add" in the import panel. You then also selected the option to file the files into subfolders that are named after the capture date of the images. Since these are scans from film, the files will have a capture date that is the date you scanned them. Your use of the word "file" for "folder" is a bit confusing but that appears to be what happened. Within Lightroom Classic, you can simply move the images into any folder that you like by dragging and dropping but my recommendation is that the next time you import images, you make sure to select the correct option. It sounds like you have already filed or your files into the folder structure that you want them in so the best thing is to make sure to use "add" in the import panel.  With the already imported images that are now refiled into the wrong folders, move them by dragging and dropping inside Lightroom Classic. You can move them outside of Lightroom but this will make Lightroom lose the connection and get confused. That is recoverable by reconnecting the files or folders in Lightroom Classic from the contextual menu but it is easier to just move them inside Lightroom. 

 

That's what I think has happened based on yopur writeup, but it is hard to know for sure without seeing your actual setup.

 

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Jao.   Wow.  Thanks.  I don't even know how to use the move or add
commands, but maybe in haste I might have mistakenly done that.   I will
immediately go over them and your analysis and let you know what happens
when I try to correct the problem.

Thanks so much for your insight.

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