How does one create a duplicate copy in lightroom? (Not Virtual) Tired of moving to PS to only copy a file.

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How does one create a duplicate copy (Not Virtual) in light Room? Seems moving to PS and bringing back just to copy a file is clunky to say the least. 

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How does one create a duplicate copy in lightroom? (Not Virtual) Tired of moving to PS to only copy a file.

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How does one create a duplicate copy (Not Virtual) in light Room? Seems moving to PS and bringing back just to copy a file is clunky to say the least. 

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Hi DF,

I would think that the process is clunky because there's no need for doing that. What can you gain in Lightroom by having a real copy, that you can't do with a virtual copy?

Mike

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The way I use Lightroom is that I import all of my master images from my camera and do all of my adjustments using Lightroom. Occasionally it will be necessary to go to Photoshop, but that isn't very often anymore. If I need a copy of the file for e-mail or to post on a website then I will export a copy suitable for it's purpose. Once it has been used it is deleted. Personally, I don't see a need to have a copy of an image. If the master file is changed for some reason then it's necessary to export another copy in order to have it look the same.

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Thanks for the reply but doesn't address the issue. I use PS a lot for layers, blending, removing objects with "content aware" which LR simply is not up to plus many other things. My work flow doesn't lend itself to virtual copies other then for soft proofing prior to printing. I like a separate file for my B&W conversions which I do from a optimized color file. Since I use NIK Collection for most of my B&W its not a problem as I get a copy back. Its is a problem when I use LR to do a conversion as I get the virtual copy or my master file is converted.

Don't know what the deal is to have a duplicate file choice in LR as in PS?

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Just EXPORT the file and tell Lightroom to "Add this to Catalog" in the export dialog.    For my own interest, why do you need a second physical copy of the file.

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Bob Somrak wrote:

Just EXPORT the file and tell Lightroom to "Add this to Catalog" in the export dialog. For my own interest, why do you need a second physical copy of the file.

And, under File Settings, be sure to pick "Original".  Then anything you've done in Lightroom will be ignored.  You get an "original", exact duplicate. 

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When you export a RAW as "Original" an XMP file is saved also so when Lightroom automatically reimports this file it will reflect the develop settings of photo that was exported.  After import you need to do a RESET to get back to Lightroom defaults.  This whole workflow should not be necessary in Lightroom though if you use the Lightroom tools and capabilities properly.

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Bob Somrak wrote:

When you export a RAW as "Original" an XMP file is saved also so when Lightroom automatically reimports this file it will reflect the develop settings of photo that was exported. After import you need to do a RESET to get back to Lightroom defaults. ..

Didn't know that.  Thanks!

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Thanks for the reply. Why I need copies at times is do to my workflow. Have used PS from its start so I am used to using folders for subject, day/date year, and variations such as B&W. Just in the last year started Light Room which I like for initial editing and printing. Since I do a lot of B&W I keep separate folder by subject for converted RAW files. At 35k plus of files I would not want to search through all my color work to find the B&W virtual copies. It is easier to just go to the B&W folder of the subject and pull it up. Since I also use NIK Collection for editing, most of the times making a copy isn't a issue because of the export edit mode. However when I want to just do a conversion in LR to B&W, I have to sent it first to PS to make a duplicate then bring it back. Seems to me a no brainer to just add "copy file" to LR. 

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At 35k plus of files I would not want to search through all my color work to find the B&W virtual copies.

In Lightroom it is EXTREMELY simple to filter out the color photos to find the B&W virtual copies. In the filter bar or in a smart collection, set the condition of the filter or smart collection to search for Treatment=B&W (and then save the filter or smart collection for future use)

Furthermore, in Lightroom you can assign any metadata you want to help your find the photos.

It is easier to just go to the B&W folder of the subject and pull it up.

I disagree. It's extra work to create all these B&W folders and move your B&W into those folders.

My work flow doesn't lend itself to virtual copies

Everything you have said so far indicates to me that your workflow is PERFECT for virtual copies. Nothing you have said rules out virtual copies.

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Appreciate your guidance however since I started in Bridge many years ago I have everything organized by folders by color work and by B&W. I just go to the folder and pull up the images I want with no other search commands needed. I understand it is easy to pull up virtual copies with the search features in LR however using these files off line on my I Pad (Foliobook) or in a standalone slide show (Fotmagico) calls for jpegs or tif files not virtual copies. I am a CC member so I know I can use LR on the I Pad but then I need to mess with collections which adds another layer of complexity. I will just use PS to copy when I need to. 

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however using these files off line on my I Pad (Foliobook) or in a standalone slide show (Fotmagico) calls for jpegs or tif files not virtual copies.

You have to export the B&W virtual copy in this case, it is no more work than exporting the B&W (real) copy from Lightroom to these other software.

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It's easy enough (though not clear why)... you can create a second copy at the finder level, change the file name  (add a .2) and import it where you want it to be.

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