Italics no longer working on Watermark

New Here ,
Oct 25, 2020 Oct 25, 2020

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Since installing LR 10.0 my Export watermarks have changed. I am using Jenkins 2.0 font set to bold italic. With this setting or even just italic the watermark comes out as an arial font. If I change it to just bold (no italic) or regular then the font comes out correct. This is the same with the Segoe Script font.

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New Here ,
Oct 26, 2020 Oct 26, 2020

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With Futura Font family, if you use Italic, Bold, Bold Italic the text is converted in Arial standard when you use the font in watermark style. In the previous LrC version everything worked well. Tried also with Futura by Abobe besides a different Futura release. 

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Explorer ,
Oct 30, 2020 Oct 30, 2020

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Same here.

I looked into this and all the individual watermark settings are correct.   I'm using Papyrus italic as the font and that is what is showing in the lookup boxes.   I can go into the dropdown lists & re-select Papyrus and Italic, however, as soon as I select italic the sample changes to some default, gross font.

I tested to make sure it was not a Windows 10 issue and I can create the correct watermark in MS Word.

Apparently LR Classic can no longer handle the italic version??

These watermarks WERE working right up until I updated to the latest LR Classic.

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 06, 2020 Nov 06, 2020

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Same here

The two fonts I use, mainly Palatino are NOT showing up in Italics and going to some generic font. 

How to fix?

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Explorer ,
Nov 06, 2020 Nov 06, 2020

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Either wait for a bug fix or build an image of what you want, and use that.  I'll wait for a bug fix.

Just hope it doesn't take forever.

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New Here ,
Jan 29, 2021 Jan 29, 2021

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Italic doesn't work in LR 10.1 or LR 10.1.1 either.

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New Here ,
Jan 30, 2021 Jan 30, 2021

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Same here.  Using Book Antiqua font (which I had as a preset) but now just defaults to a generic standard font.  Just tried a number of different ones but with no success.  See this is pretty much 3 months since this was highlighted but appears nothing has been done yet to resolve this issue.  Disappointing!

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Explorer ,
Jan 30, 2021 Jan 30, 2021

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Totally disgusted!    It cannot be rocket science to get italics back up & running.   

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New Here ,
Apr 22, 2021 Apr 22, 2021

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I'm now on version 10.2 in April 2021 and italics are still not working!

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 29, 2021 Apr 29, 2021

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Same issue. I reported this issue > 6 months and nothing happens. I'm quite surprised.

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Explorer ,
Apr 29, 2021 Apr 29, 2021

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What is most upsetting is that talics on all fonts did work in all prior versions of LR. So fixing the issue could be as simple as rolling back that section of code to the last working version.



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Mentor ,
Apr 29, 2021 Apr 29, 2021

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Just a side comment here: it is a good idea to check which typefaces even have any "designed" italic (or bold, or bold italic) variant installed as a font file. Especially with more unusual looking ones - including script faces - no "italicised" form may have been intended by their designer. A handwriting style font is already in some senses "italic".

 

Similarly the basic form of each typeface design is considered such-and such Regular (even if it does not say so), and will group with a corresponding Bold, Italic and Bold Italic typically. But such-and such Light, or Book, or Script is separately grouped and will not necessarily 'know' what best to use when the user asks for a Bold option.

 

In most software - MS Word or whatever - you can assign any typeface you like an italic override, bold or both. When a proper font file is not present, a "faux" sloped / thickened version is fudged instead and usually that looks awful. Some more typographically scrupulous software will simply not show any "faux" version.

 

It's strange though. While some faces mentioned (such as Papyrus or Segoe Script) can IMO be expected problematic to override to italic (since there is no 'Papyrus Italic' font file; while Segoe Script has only got 'Regular' and 'Bold')...

 

...some typefaces mentioned, such as Book Antiqua, should have all needed variants present as standard. I guess the sizing of a particular text string can change considerably with a "designed" font variant - which raises a separate complication for LrC watermarking. 

 

Consider e.g. the very differing widths of the letter shapes in this illustration:

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If that is a properly defined font file then really LrC should cope with this IMO, but maybe it would be more accurate to offer all of the genuine font files available in a single list, rather then offering a list of faces plus style overrides. 

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