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Community Beginner ,
Jul 23, 2020

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Since LrC 9.3 (Mac) the 'Library' module displays the JPG and RAW files next to each other. - I only want to see the RAW files. The box 'Treat JPEG files next to raw files as separate photos' in the Preferences is unticked.

 

However, LrC does treat them as separate photos by displaying both and also counting them both, doubling the number of photos in my folders.

 

I am not sure if this is messed up when importing. - My 'historic' folders still only display the RAW files although the JPG files are in there when checking on Finder.

Any ideas to resolve this issue are highly appreciated.

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JPG and RAW display together in Library

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Since LrC 9.3 (Mac) the 'Library' module displays the JPG and RAW files next to each other. - I only want to see the RAW files. The box 'Treat JPEG files next to raw files as separate photos' in the Preferences is unticked.

 

However, LrC does treat them as separate photos by displaying both and also counting them both, doubling the number of photos in my folders.

 

I am not sure if this is messed up when importing. - My 'historic' folders still only display the RAW files although the JPG files are in there when checking on Finder.

Any ideas to resolve this issue are highly appreciated.

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What I think you are seeing is older JPGs that were left on the card from a previous shoot.

Can you confirm that?

 

There was a long conversation about this a short while ago, 1 month ago or so.

Format the card in the camera, Take some test shots (RAW + JPG) do an import of them and test if the JPG show in the Library module next to the RAW shots.

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This is an interesting point and probably a messed up SD card.

 

1. I have some imports where everything is fine:

 

Screenshot 2020-07-23 at 14.21.54.png

 

2. Then I have imports where the ORF (raw) and JPGs are separated:

 

Screenshot 2020-07-23 at 14.07.12.png

 

3. Then I have I think what you are referring to, that old JPGs mess up the library by being imported subsequently again:

 

Screenshot 2020-07-23 at 14.20.23.png

 

I now formatted another SD card and took some test shots to import. It looks as it should.

Screenshot 2020-07-23 at 14.20.41.png

 

I will need to try the other SD card again and then see what happens during the next days when I open LrC again.

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LEGEND ,
Jul 23, 2020

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This box affects only newly imported photos, not photos that have been previously imported.

 

If you only want to see RAW photos, you can set a filter to show only RAW photos.

 

If you want to remove the unwanted JPGs from the catalog, you can filter for JPGs and then delete the unwanted ones.

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Thanks dj_paige. - I never had this box ticked. After searching various forums, I checked my preference just to see that the box was indeed not ticked.

 

I understand the work-arounds that you are describing. However, this does not solve the problem that when importing new photos, I will get JPG and RAW in the Library view. I don't want to have to filter or remove from the library after every import.

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LEGEND ,
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What are the names of files that import, when both JPG and RAW are imported? Please give an example or two.

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Here is an example

 

Screenshot 2020-07-23 at 14.05.47.pngScreenshot 2020-07-23 at 14.07.12.png

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LEGEND ,
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A clue to the mystery may be the icon at the top left of the .ORF files. This indicates that you have turned on the "Embedded and Sidecar" option of the Build Previews dropdown of the import dialog. As I have never used this option, I can't say for sure if it is relevant to this problem, but you can turn it off and see if the problem goes away.

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There is indeed an earlier discussion based on somebody using two different SD cards for RAW and JPG. - This is not the case here.

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic/lr-classic-does-not-merge-raw-and-jpeg-while-import... 

 

I still don't know why LrC messed up my imports. Maybe it was down to the SD card.

 

1. To combine the RAW and JPG retrospectively, select the folder in LrC and 'Synchronize Folder ...'. This will combine the RAW and JPG files as 'usual' meaning the JPG file is used as a Sidecar preview.

 

2. The reason I want to / need to use 'Embedded & Sidecar' is that Olympus uses only a small thumbnail preview in the ORF (raw) file which cannot be used to cull images while the import happens. The JPGs can then be used to start the culling.

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Check the file creation dates and capture date and time on these. If there is even 1 second difference between the creation time of the orf and jpeg files. Lightroom will not recognize them as instances of the same image. If writing to the sd card is slow that can happen.

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Thanks, Jao_vdL. Yes, that makes sense but doesn't seem to be the case here. - When doing a 'Synchronize folder ...' after the 'Import ...', it does combine the RAW and JPG without any further intervention.

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