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I'm trying to clean up my list of keywords in Lightroom.  I'm on 9.2.  Using Windows 10.  I can not see the entire list.  I can not take a key word out from the position of a subkeyword and make it a primary keyword.  

 

How do I get to remove keywords from a hierarchy AND be able to see all of my keywords.

 

I chatted with tech support.  They said if I installed the latest 9.2 from the 9.1 I was using it would fix the problem... it did not!  I still can not perform the basic functions on the keyword list.

 

Any suggestions would be appreciated...   and any suggestions for cleaning it up in a spreadsheet and reimporting if that is possible...

 

I have already deleted hundreds of "1" word assigned to an image to give me fewer words... but still no luck seeing the entire list... Metadata filter still says I have 2260...   I submit stock to Adobe and other companies, so I use a lot of keywords...   thus the clean up...  thought I would begin to group them in a hierarchy and assign some synonyms so I don't have so many... but I have to be able to manage the list first.   

Thanks  Terri

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Keywords in Lightroom - can't see the entire list

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I'm trying to clean up my list of keywords in Lightroom.  I'm on 9.2.  Using Windows 10.  I can not see the entire list.  I can not take a key word out from the position of a subkeyword and make it a primary keyword.  

 

How do I get to remove keywords from a hierarchy AND be able to see all of my keywords.

 

I chatted with tech support.  They said if I installed the latest 9.2 from the 9.1 I was using it would fix the problem... it did not!  I still can not perform the basic functions on the keyword list.

 

Any suggestions would be appreciated...   and any suggestions for cleaning it up in a spreadsheet and reimporting if that is possible...

 

I have already deleted hundreds of "1" word assigned to an image to give me fewer words... but still no luck seeing the entire list... Metadata filter still says I have 2260...   I submit stock to Adobe and other companies, so I use a lot of keywords...   thus the clean up...  thought I would begin to group them in a hierarchy and assign some synonyms so I don't have so many... but I have to be able to manage the list first.   

Thanks  Terri

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How do I get to remove keywords from a hierarchy AND be able to see all of my keywords.?

I do not think you will be able!

I seems this is a bug that has been reported long ago (8 years? since Lr1?)

See the forum thread at-

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/i_cannot_access_the_whole_keyword_list_to_edi...

Create Parent keywords with many child-words. And as you drag a visible KW hovering over a 'Parent' will open up the contained list.

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https://lightroomkillertips.com/controlling-keywords/

 

 

Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 10.0, Photoshop 22.0, Lightroom 4.0, Windows-10. Nikon DSLR.

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cleaning it up in a spreadsheet and reimporting if that is possible...

It is possible BUT it does NOT re-link the keywords to the photos in your catalog, so big problems! Do not do!

This would only work ok when beginning a totally new catalog.

Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 10.0, Photoshop 22.0, Lightroom 4.0, Windows-10. Nikon DSLR.

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"I chatted with tech support.  They said if I installed the latest 9.2 from the 9.1 I was using it would fix the problem... it did not!"

 

Unfortunately, Adobe tech support will often say anything to close out an issue. 

 

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"thought I would begin to group them in a hierarchy and assign some synonyms so I don't have so many... but I have to be able to manage the list first."

 

As described in the links provided by WobertC, there's a couple of tricks to introducing and managing a hierarchy when you have more than 1500 keywords.

 

1. Keep most of the hierarchy collapsed, so that fewer than 1500 keywords are showing at any one time.

 

2. Enter one or more search strings in the Keyword List search box, and it will show just those keywords (and their ancestors) containing those strings:

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Then you can easily drag and drop keywords to the desired parent keyword without scrolling excessively and without tripping over the 1500-keyword limit.

 

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Thanks much for the response.

I understand the concept of the hierachy and collapsing down the categories... my problem right now is that I can not even add a new parent keyword...

So building those top level keywords and dragging the existing keywords into groups is not possible... I can't drag and drop...

I did export the list and review them... there are probably plenty I can group...  but because I have probably 1200-1500 stock images already with many keywords, I really don't want to mess those up...  

I guess I could try to break down my catalog into smaller ones as the keywords are associated with the catalog.. build several.. clean them up with the same keywork hierarchy and then merge the catalogs back together....  seems like a pretty drastic measure just to be able to move a keyword around on the list!

Pretty disgusting when you think I'm keywording for "ADOBE STOCK" and their own damn product keeps you from a decent workflow...

I'll keep trying...   erasing might be my last option!

Frustrating!

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