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Lightroom-Photoshop Workflow with Layer Adjustments

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I'm hoping someone might have advice for my workflow which seems to be problematic.

 

- LR: Create an HDR Merge.

- LR: Use "Edit in Photoshop" to open the .DNG file.

- PS: Edit the image with Layer Adjustments

- PS: Save as a .PSD to the desktop with "Layers" checked.

- PS: Save to Lightroom.

 

- Now if I try to return later to "Edit in Photoshop" the .PSD, the layers are not intact.

- If I open the native-saved .PSD, the layers are intact.

 

This is problematic, as editing often occurs in different intervals, with adjustments both in Lightroom and Photoshop.

 

Any ideas?

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Lightroom-Photoshop Workflow with Layer Adjustments

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I'm hoping someone might have advice for my workflow which seems to be problematic.

 

- LR: Create an HDR Merge.

- LR: Use "Edit in Photoshop" to open the .DNG file.

- PS: Edit the image with Layer Adjustments

- PS: Save as a .PSD to the desktop with "Layers" checked.

- PS: Save to Lightroom.

 

- Now if I try to return later to "Edit in Photoshop" the .PSD, the layers are not intact.

- If I open the native-saved .PSD, the layers are intact.

 

This is problematic, as editing often occurs in different intervals, with adjustments both in Lightroom and Photoshop.

 

Any ideas?

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https://lightroomkillertips.com/lightroom-handles-layered-photoshop-files/

 

Just another Adobe customer; My Sys; APP: LRC 10.0, PS 22.0; CMP: WIN WS 16GB OS 10 v1909 (18363), mid 2015 MBPr 15” 16GB MACOS 10.15.7; 4K EXT DSPY; CAM: Canon 5D Mk III, Fuji X-T3

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Thanks. But that workflow does not work. Since the HDR creates a new image, one cannot use the Edit Original Image command. 

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LEGEND ,
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Davids link to the Scott Kelby article is correct.  Edit Original of the PSD will still have the layers if you saved the PSD with layers.

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No. My point is that if you create an HDR image in Lightroom, and then open that in Photoshop, and then make adjustments with layers, and then save back into Lightroom. Lightroom will not reopen the image in Photoshop with layers, because the original image was an HDR .dmg.

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I should add I tested this extensively with Adobe chat support this morning. I kept getting the same results on my side, and they recreated and got the same results on their side.

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I followed your steps:

 

"- LR: Create an HDR Merge.

- LR: Use "Edit in Photoshop" to open the .DNG file.

- PS: Edit the image with Layer Adjustments

- PS: Save as a .PSD to the desktop with "Layers" checked.

- PS: Save to Lightroom.

- Now if I try to return later to "Edit in Photoshop" the .PSD, the layers are not intact."

 

In the last step, when I right-click the .psd in LR and do Edit In > Edit In Adobe Photoshop 2020, I'm able to select Edit Original, and the .psd re-opens in Photoshop with its layers intact.

 

See this screen recording: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ta9wsxhlfmkum3a/hdr-photoshop.2020.07.10.mov?dl=0 . Perhaps you can see a difference between that recording and what you're doing or seeing.

 

If that doens't help, please post a similar screen recording of the same steps -- that should clarify what's going on.

https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/how-to-record-your-screen 

 

[Use the blue reply button under the first post to ensure replies sort properly.]

 

 

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The workflow works for me!

It is important to note that the .PSD you create from the .DNG, with layers, is now the 'ORIGINAL'. (The 'Original' .PSD.!)

You do NOT re-open the HDR DNG with Ps by 'Edit-In' if you want the layered file.

The .PSD will open with layers intact if you always select either [Edit Original] or [Edit a Copy...of the original] in the dialog.

 

[Edit a Copy with Lightroom Adjustments] is problematic in that it will remove (flatten) all layers in a .PSD that you 're-open' in Ps.

Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 10.0, Photoshop 22.0, Lightroom 4.0, Windows-10. Nikon DSLR.

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Are you saving in PS with Max compatibility checked?

 

I don't understand your third step.

-PS: Save As a .PSD to the Desktop with "Layers" checked. So you are using the Save As option to save a PSD to some other folder than the one the original Merged DNG file is stored? And then you are using Save Com/Ctrl + s to save it back to LrC?

 

The copy you used Save As and placed it in some other folder is Not in the LrC catalog and does not show in LrC.

 

And what do you mean the Layers are not Intact.

 

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- When I open the HDR .dmg from LR using the Edit in Photoshop command, I make changes to the image with adjustment layers.

- I "save as" the image to the Desktop as a .PSD just so I can test that one later.

- I then "save" the .psd to LR.

- I close the file in PS.

 

Then I shift back to LR.

 

- Now if I look at the .psd and decide I need to make changes to it in LR, and then decide to make more changes in PS), when I select "Edit in Photoshop", the .psd opens in PS. The layers are intact. But the Lightroom changes are gone.

 

So this essentially means one cannot edit in both Lightroom and PS and have layers remain intact.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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- Now if I look at the .psd and decide I need to make changes to it in LR, and then decide to make more changes in PS), when I select "Edit in Photoshop", the .psd opens in PS. The layers are intact. But the Lightroom changes are gone.

This adds more complication to the Lr<>Ps interaction!

 

1) You edit a .PSD that returns to LrC.

2) You do more LrC development to the .PSD in the LrC Develop module.

3) You go back to Ps with 'Edit-In' -  Choosing the [Edit Original] option. (NOT -[Edit a Copy with Lightroom Adjustments]  )

Yes, the edits in step 2) do not show in Ps, but- read on-

 

4) Do more edits in Ps, and [Save] the file  (not Save-As)

5) The image should re-appear in the LrC catalog with the LrC Step 2) edits re-applied.

 

If the LrC edits from Step 2) do not re-appear on the .PSD, then you may only need to zoom the image and the Preview will update.

Earlier versions of Lightroom did not update (automatically) this way, but you could always simply [click] on the very last top edit in the Develop History panel and all the Lr edits would re-apply.

 

 

 

Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 10.0, Photoshop 22.0, Lightroom 4.0, Windows-10. Nikon DSLR.

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