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Hi,

 

I've just completed the upgrade to Lrc 9.3 - so using Lightroom  Classic. My camera is a Fujifilm X-T4 and I shoot raw+jpeg and In the general preferences, I've always had the setting "treat JEPG files next to raw files as separate photos" unchecked  (and it still is!), however since updating to 9.3, the import process is treating the jpeg file as a separate process.

 

I inserted a card that I had previously imported and Lightroom recognized all of the jpegs as not having being imported. I processed the card to see what would happen and it re-imported the jpegs with a -2 appended to the file name.

 

the Fuji is on the latest firmware

Lightroom is running on macOS Catalina 10.15.5

The device is a Macbook Pro 16" 2019 with 64GB ram and AMD Radeon Pro 5300M GPIU

 

 

Regards

 

Gerry 

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RAW+JPEG Imports

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Hi,

 

I've just completed the upgrade to Lrc 9.3 - so using Lightroom  Classic. My camera is a Fujifilm X-T4 and I shoot raw+jpeg and In the general preferences, I've always had the setting "treat JEPG files next to raw files as separate photos" unchecked  (and it still is!), however since updating to 9.3, the import process is treating the jpeg file as a separate process.

 

I inserted a card that I had previously imported and Lightroom recognized all of the jpegs as not having being imported. I processed the card to see what would happen and it re-imported the jpegs with a -2 appended to the file name.

 

the Fuji is on the latest firmware

Lightroom is running on macOS Catalina 10.15.5

The device is a Macbook Pro 16" 2019 with 64GB ram and AMD Radeon Pro 5300M GPIU

 

 

Regards

 

Gerry 

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You might want to post your problem over at the feedback site were actual Adobe Techs hang out, well, at least one.:


https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/categories/photoshop_family_photoshop_lightroom?topi...

 

sounds  like you may have come upon a bug to be reported.

 

Reccomend you add two bits of additional  info

 

1. A screenshot of your Import dialog.

 

2. A System Info report from LrC, include all info from first line down to and including plugin info. /Help/System Info/Copy/

 

You may want to add that info in this thread as well.

 

 

Just another Adobe customer; My Sys; APP: LRC 10.0, PS 22.0; CMP: WIN WS 16GB OS 10 v1909 (18363), mid 2015 MBPr 15” 16GB MACOS 10.15.7; 4K EXT DSPY; CAM: Canon 5D Mk III, Fuji X-T3

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Thanks David - I'll do that

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Adobe Community Professional ,
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Are the JPGs on a separate, Second In Camera, SD card? And do you connect the camera directly to the computer or use a card reader.

 

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Community Beginner ,
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Hi,

 

jpgs are on the same card and yes, I'm connecting the camera via USB-C  and downloading directly. 

 

Thanks for responding

Gerry

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Adobe Community Professional ,
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OK i have to ask again. Are you Sure the JPG aren't on the Second SD Card in the camera?

 

Fuji, I own 2 of them X-T2 and X-E2, has a setting in the camera to place RAW on one card and JPGs on the other, that is if the camera has 2 card slots. My T2 does and that is an option on the camera.

When the RAWs + JPGs are on 2 separate cards and you connect the camera directly to the computer LrC could be reading both cards and not seeing that the JPGs are the same files as the RAWs.

 

I also suggext you buy a card reader and stop connecting the camera directly to the computer.

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Hi 

 

No issue asking again, but...... I am absolutely certain as there is only one card in the camera at the moment. I've started using the camera direct since the XT3 came out as it's got a USB-C and Its the best performance i've gotten.....

 

Gerry 

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I have another question.

Are the JPG actually showing up in LrC when you are in the Grid View and have the Sort: set to Capture Time?

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I ask the above question because even with that LrC option unchecked, Treat JPGs as separate files, LR Still Copies the JPG images from the card and places them in the same folder as the RAW files and LrC actually makes a record of them in the LrC database file, the Catlaog file, as being imported but does not Display them in either the Grid view or Film strip. It does display the RAW + Jpg and marks the JPG as a Sidecar file.

Here is a screen shot of the LrC window with some shots I just took of my messy desk and imported them into LrC 9.3. You will see the JPGs are Not displayed and that it is listed as a sidecar file and the File name, as displayed at the top of the grid view thumbnails lists Raw file name and then + JPG. And then a screen shot of File Explorer showing the folder this import got copied to and the JPGs are next to the RAW files.

 

2020-06-20 07_31_59-LR Classic V9 Catalog - Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Classic - Library.png

 

 

2020-06-20 07_38_05-E__Pictures 2020_0620.png

 

So the question is are you actually seeing the JPG images in LrC or just in a File Manager window?

 

When that option is not checked and there are JPG images, with the same file name except for the extension, on the same card as the RAW files LrC has always copied those JPGs into the same folder as the RAW files and entered a record of them in the catalog but does not display them. Also you can't then Import them as LrC knows you already imported them.

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Hi 

 

They are showing up in grid view and with the older card, even though all the images on the card had been ingested into LrC previously, it re-imported the jpgs again appending a -2 onto the file name

 

😞

 

Gerry

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Sorry the only other option I can offer, as stated on your post at the other LrC forum is to Reset the LrC Preferences.

 

I have done imports and do not see this problem. So it is not wide spread and probably specific to your computer and install of LrC.

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I Have the same issue, on MAC OS Catalina 10.15.5

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So to both of you.

You are on a Mac with the newest OS X. I'm usiing Windows.

 

So when the import window comes up it shows both the RAW and the JPG images in the center section?

If that is so for the time being just Sort: by File Type and Uncheck all the JPGs so they don't get imported.

 

If you want them in the same folder as the RAW files then Manually select and copy them into that same folder using Finder. that is until this problem get solved.

 

 

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So... First off, apologies for not replying sooner - unfortunately, my day job got in the way this week 😞

 

So I've gone back to basics a bit

 

- Formatted a card

- Took some photos

- Imported them - everything looked normal 

 

Went out and shot another couple of images without formatting the card

 

- took some photos

- imported them and the import dialog wanted to re-import all the jpgs ( see image).

import showing jpgs.png

 

The next screen capture shows the bottom section with the new photos 

import showing new images.png

 

Just to be sure - here is the preferences section

preferences.png

 

If I let the import go ahead,  all of the jpgs in the first capture get a -2 appended to the file name as they are in the library already

 

Can I  also clarify that I do not have 2 cards inserted in the camera so all of the images (RAW+JPG) are stored on the same card and that my setup was working right up until i updated to 9.3

 

Thanks  everyone who took the time to help

 

Regards

 

Gerry

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