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Remove watermark

Community Beginner ,
May 18, 2020 May 18, 2020

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My wife and I got married 2-6-2018. To cut a long story short: our photographer delivered the pictures with watermark.

After some inquiries she mentioned she lost the original pictures. I did my best to get them back, but it was impossible. She told me both backup diks had scrambled pictures, so she threw them out. (This was all a long time ago)

Now, we're still on speaking terms and she said she would remove the water mark. Either by photo shopping or by cropping the pictures. Not really what I like.

 

I shared those pictures with her (read only mode!) and am waiting for her to get back with the editted pictures.

 

Is there no way to remove the watermark? She has used Adobe Lightroom to put it in there.

 

Edit: I am not trying to get pictures without watermark for free without consent of the photographer. If someone comes back with a possible solution I will share this with her and ask her to apply it. She calls herself a technical noob, so if she has to get help, that is also an option of course. But the original pictures seem to be lost.

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LEGEND ,
May 18, 2020 May 18, 2020

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Photoshop has the capability to do a decent job of removing watermarks, but I consider it to be a fairly advanced skill to get good results. Lightroom cannot do so.

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Community Beginner ,
May 19, 2020 May 19, 2020

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So, Adobe has not built in any back door to remove something their software added. That's too bad.

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Community Expert ,
May 19, 2020 May 19, 2020

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It totally depends on the watermark and where it is located in the image. Some watermarks are almost impossible to remove (and that is the idea of watermarks), other watermarks take a few seconds.

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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Community Beginner ,
May 19, 2020 May 19, 2020

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That's not removing the watermark, that's hiding it.

We have a watermark over the face of the bass player of the band. That guy has deceased last year.

I talked to a local Apple expert store and there someone mentioned that if you apply a watermark you can tick or untick a box to either keep or not keep the originals. I think our photographer did a big oops there.

By the way... she has contacted me again for the pictures, because she lost the ones with watermark as well.

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LEGEND ,
May 19, 2020 May 19, 2020

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Apple experts are not experts in Lightroom.

 

Once a watermark is applied, you can't remove it from the exported image. The original image (which you no longer have access to) has no watermark, and would serve your purpose, if only they were available. If your photographer is someone who doesn't believe in keeping originals, I would not use him/her again.

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Community Beginner ,
May 20, 2020 May 20, 2020

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I know Apple experts are no Lightroom experts, but this was the closest I got to what most likely happened.

Our photographer said she had a computer crash, that truncated the original pictures and the originals on BOTH external backup drives. Therefore she threw out the backup drives. Yeah right.... And she only pointed this out AFTER alledgly throwing away everything that held "truncated originals"

And nothing was on iCloud, because she doesn't think cloud is a safe way.

 

Currently I have shared my OneDrive folder holding the copies with water mark. Of course in read only mode and she is struggling to get those pictures. And she asks for the USB stick....that she never delivered.

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Community Expert ,
May 20, 2020 May 20, 2020

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I find this hard to believe. I find it much easier to believe that the photographers didn't have any backups and is too afraid to tell you that.

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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LEGEND ,
May 19, 2020 May 19, 2020

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The key here is having access to the originals and ideally the software that created the watermarks in the first place.

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Community Beginner ,
May 20, 2020 May 20, 2020

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Ok, so the key is gone

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Community Expert ,
May 19, 2020 May 19, 2020

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When Lightroom applies a watermark, it creates a new copy of the image with the watermark as part of the image. It's not "on top" of the image, or "overlaid" or otherwise removeable. The pixels of the watermark are part of the pixels of the image. That's why its often very difficult to remove, depending on the level of detail in the area that the watermark has obscured.

 

As noted above, software that creates watermarks has to have had access to the original pristine copy to create the output - but if that original image was lost or destroyed, there's no "un-watermark feature" to get it back.

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Community Beginner ,
May 20, 2020 May 20, 2020

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So, it is not removeable at all. You can only hide it.

I would expect Adobe to build in some sort of back door for people that have a photographer that doesn't know how to do her job. Like we do...

Unfortunately things didn't go that bad with a first photo shoot we had. She just messed up our wedding pictures. That's all...

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LEGEND ,
May 20, 2020 May 20, 2020

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"I would expect Adobe to build in some sort of back door for people that have a photographer that doesn't know how to do her job. Like we do..."

 

I think Adobe's logic here in the way it creates and handles watermarks is correct, and doesn't need to be changed. People need to learn the basics of any software in order to use it effectively. And, I point out that it is an extremely reasonable (even basic and fundamental) expectation that photographers keep their originals (which, by the way, was a reasonable expectation even before digital photography).

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Community Beginner ,
May 20, 2020 May 20, 2020

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I agree to some extent. I would assume a photographer to be better at this.

When she pointed out that when it comes to computers she is a total noob, I mentioned that is not an option anymore if you're working with digital photography.

 

Let's say the camera got stolen before she had the chance to backup the pictures on another device, then I would not blame her. However, she claims she had made backups and then things went south.

 

Well, there is no solution other than playing nice to her until she has photoshopped the pictures as much as possible. But I think I will ask her at some point to be honest to me. It will not change the situation.

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