Using the brush with HSL color adjustments

Engaged ,
Apr 16, 2017

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Hi guys,

When I do exactly per Adobe's tutorial, the color adjustments seem to seep beyond the selected areas. Is that standard or is it just me?

Thanks a lot,

Raphael

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Adobe Community Professional , Apr 16, 2017
WobertC Adobe Community Professional , Apr 16, 2017
The HSL Panel adjustments are not available with the Brush Adjustment Tool. EDIT:  Brush HUE adjustments (Local HSL) are now available! Intoduced in Lr-Classic v9.3   It has been suggested to Adobe to make it available for this purpose- add the suggestion at- Photoshop Family Customer Community You may see the HSL panel below the brush panel if you scroll down panels but it does not make it usable with the brush. The Brush tool already has Exposure, Saturation, Vibrance, but for Hue changes you ...

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 16, 2017

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The HSL Panel adjustments are not available with the Brush Adjustment Tool.

EDIT:  Brush HUE adjustments (Local HSL) are now available! Intoduced in Lr-Classic v9.3

 

It has been suggested to Adobe to make it available for this purpose- add the suggestion at- Photoshop Family Customer Community

You may see the HSL panel below the brush panel if you scroll down panels but it does not make it usable with the brush.

The Brush tool already has Exposure, Saturation, Vibrance, but for Hue changes you can only apply a (limited) color tint in the Color selection box.

Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 10.1.1, Photoshop 22.2, Lightroom 4.1, Windows-10 Nikon DSLR.

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Engaged ,
Apr 17, 2017

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Thanks!

What a waste of a very useful resource. I did as you suggested and suggested strongly HSL adjustments be made available to the Brush tool.

Thanks a lot,

Raphael

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 17, 2017

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There are already so many sliders in the Adjustment Brush, it almost scrolls off the screen as it. Imagine adding another 20 or so sliders (at least 6 each for H, S, L). Just a thought experiment as to what this would look like if it were implemented.

It might be a better feature to add an HSL brush to that section, rather than add all the HSL sliders to the existing adjustment brush (and radial filter, and gradient filter).

Mike

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Engaged ,
Apr 17, 2017

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Thank you Michael for your sensible response. Adding all these sliders, etc. would make the interface even more visually confusing than it already is. If Apple taught us anything it is that good interface and product design sells and delights.

So here I am, a LR paying customer, unable to capitalize on the power of this incredibly rich software because of design insufficiency - finding myself unduly penalized for it; knowing all along the solution is tantalizingly close.

I think that Adobe should merge with Apple whereby Adobe engineers the software, and Apple creates the interface, the packaging and the marketing.

But I know not everyone would see it as a step forward.

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Nov 15, 2017

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I'd like to add that I miss the HSL tool on a brush very much.

Often, certain areas of the image have too much yellow or reds. But changes saturation of yellows overall affects elements that don't need to be affected.

Personally I would use this feature every day if it was available. Today I try to solve the problem with decreasing saturation overall - with poor results.


"It would make the interface too complex" is hardly an argument, if more advanced features can be expanded upon request only. Just show the most important features by default, and collapse the others.

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Engaged ,
Nov 15, 2017

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You are referring to an interface design problem - something Adobe knows very little about. See my previous message.

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LEGEND ,
Nov 15, 2017

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Wouth  wrote

I'd like to add that I miss the HSL tool on a brush very much.

Often, certain areas of the image have too much yellow or reds. But changes saturation of yellows overall affects elements that don't need to be affected.

Personally I would use this feature every day if it was available. Today I try to solve the problem with decreasing saturation overall - with poor results.


"It would make the interface too complex" is hardly an argument, if more advanced features can be expanded upon request only. Just show the most important features by default, and collapse the others.

Please read the thread and submit your request to Adobe using the link given earlier.

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New Here ,
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Unfortunatelly Adobe Lightroom doesn't support this function that I consider to be very important. Fortunately Luminar 3 for example supports it. It's incredibly usefull when you shoot in JPG with a global increased colors spectrum and want to remove some red/organge from people's face while keeping the saturation on the rest of the picture...

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New Here ,
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Really a shame when I found this out. Capture One has this exact function, making it a little more superior in its features.

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New Here ,
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As a portrait and commercial photographer, this is one of the greatest reasons why I also bought a Capture One licence. Especially when you are editing skin tones, you most certainly do not want to adjust all the other skin like colors in the image. You want to mask the face or the body to get the tones even. Now I have to choose Lightroom or Capture One before I edit a photoshoot, If the skintones are really crucial. And sadly, I am more often leaning on Capture One now after being a loyal Lighroom and Adobe customer for many years, just because of this one brush.
Olaf, olimar.is

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Adobe Community Professional ,
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Perhaps you have not updated!

Local HSL adjustments are now available in Brush and Graduated Filter in Classic v9.3 - 9.4

 

 

Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 10.1.1, Photoshop 22.2, Lightroom 4.1, Windows-10 Nikon DSLR.

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What! How? I have 9.4 Classic and it does not appear on the brush slider.

 

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As far as I can see, they have only added the HUE slider, wich is far from being the same thing.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Sep 03, 2020

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There is no local HSL in 9.3 or 9.4. You can only shift the hue of the entire area and all colors in the brushed areas. You can approximate it by using the range mask set to color and selecting the color you want to shift so only that color is affected but there is no actual HSL slider adjustment available like the ones in the global adjustment sliders. 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Sep 03, 2020

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no actual HSL slider (panels?) adjustment available like the ones in the global adjustment sliders.

Yes I agree. Thanks for the clarification.

 

Effectively now in a Brush panel there are sliders for-

Exposure = Luminance

Saturation = Saturation

Hue = Hue adjustment- (even better that the HSL panel as the hue can be changed over the full spectum- not the limited ranges as in the HSL panel.)

 

 

Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 10.1.1, Photoshop 22.2, Lightroom 4.1, Windows-10 Nikon DSLR.

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Sep 04, 2020

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It works very well for local skin color correction. It's just different than using HSL controls.

H = New Hue Local control. You also fine tune the hue using the WB Temp and Tint sliderss.

S = Local Saturation control

L = Local Exposure control

https://console.getsatisfaction.com/photoshop_family/conversations/skin-tone-tool?reply_id=20568181

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Sep 05, 2020

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Todd, Can you post a link to your '.....skin tone tool' once again.-in a different way?

When I click the link I am asked to sign in, but I get a repeating/flashing 'Sign In' loop that I cannot exit from-

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Thanks.

 

Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 10.1.1, Photoshop 22.2, Lightroom 4.1, Windows-10 Nikon DSLR.

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Try this link to the mian topic heading.

 

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/skin-tone-tool

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