Workflow optimization: How to rate JPEG and RAW at the same time?

[Haraldovic]

Hey, im usually rating my JPEGs in Adobe Bridge after a Shooting, so i can easily look at them in the Windows Explorer aswell. If im in Lightroom, i cant use the filter option, because it would show me the rated JPEGs only. And im using the RAWS to edit. Is there a way to rate both at the same time?

[gary_sc]

I'm sorry but I completely do not understand your workflow. Why have both?

Also, I cannot see any reason to be using Bridge to look at your jpgs and LR-C to look at your raw images. If you wish to adjust and then send out a bunch or few of your images to you clients via jpg, then export them from LR and bypass Bridge alltogether. 

Maybe I'm missing something so please help me understand.

[Haraldovic]

But how to rate both RAW and JPEG?

For you aswell my workflow a bit more detailed.

My old Workflow after a shooting:

-rate JPEGs to be able to look at the best pictures without any software in the Windows Explorer

-if i wanted to select i high rated image, i sorted in the Folder and then opened the RAW with the same number in Photoshop

-also im separating RAW and JPEG into 2 Folders, because sorting in Windows takes too long if they are both in the same folder. Its way quicker to just sort in a folder with only JPEGs.

My idea:

-rate both JPEG and RAW in any software (Bridge or Lightroom if possible) and be able to sort in Lightroom by star rating

-like that i can quickly check the JPEGs outside of any software and can quickly sort the high rated images in Lightroom and start editing from there.

[GoldingD]

Your workflow will not make a lot of sense to many. Mostly, why the heck are you going into Bridge.

LrC is a Data Management app, it is a database, you do bot need Bridge for file sorting, file management, for anything.

You may be either sorting oddly or filtering erroneously.

If the RAW and the JPEG are in the same Folder, then you should be able to view both while in that folder.

If they are in different folders, then you could view them in the All Photographs collection.

[Haraldovic]

Ok maybe i need to make it more clear:

My old Workflow after a shooting:

-rate JPEGs to be able to look at the best pictures without any software in the Windows Explorer

-if i wanted to select i high rated image, i sorted in the Folder and then opened the RAW with the same number in Photoshop

-also im separating RAW and JPEG into 2 Folders, because sorting in Windows takes too long if they are both in the same folder. Its way quicker to just sort in a folder with only JPEGs.

My idea:

-rate both JPEG and RAW in any software (Bridge or Lightroom if possible) and be able to sort in Lightroom by star rating

-like that i can quickly check the JPEGs outside of any software and can quickly sort the high rated images in Lightroom and start editing from there.

[Jay Marroquin]

Your workflow will not make a lot of sense to many. Mostly, why the heck are you going into Bridge.

LrC is a Data Management app, it is a database, you do bot need Bridge for file sorting, file management, for anything.

You may be either sorting oddly or filtering erroneously.

If the RAW and the JPEG are in the same Folder, then you should be able to view both while in that folder.

If they are in different folders, then you could view them in the All Photographs collection.

By @GoldingD

Have you tried viewing 1000 + runway photos, rating, organizing and doing batch renames right after a fashion show via LR-C? That my friend is why people use Adobe Bridge. So maybe you don't need Adobe Bridge for anything but for others, it's far superior to Lightroom for it's specific task.

Jay Marroquin

[john beardsworth]

For those tasks, try PhotoMechanic.

[GoldingD]

Assuming you shoot RAW, then later export to JPEG, I would suggest an alteration of when you rate. 

Specifically I would rate the RAW photos before any editing, this will be a preliminary rate.

Later, after editing, revisit the rating of the RAW

Later when you export to JPEG, make sure the ratings export in the files.

Revisit the JPEG files, reconsider the ratings, scratch your head if you change some.

[Haraldovic]

Yes, i get JPEG and RAW files.

For you aswell my workflow a bit more detailed.

My old Workflow after a shooting:

-rate JPEGs to be able to look at the best pictures without any software in the Windows Explorer

-if i wanted to select i high rated image, i sorted in the Folder and then opened the RAW with the same number in Photoshop

-also im separating RAW and JPEG into 2 Folders, because sorting in Windows takes too long if they are both in the same folder. Its way quicker to just sort in a folder with only JPEGs.

My idea:

-rate both JPEG and RAW in any software (Bridge or Lightroom if possible) and be able to sort in Lightroom by star rating

-like that i can quickly check the JPEGs outside of any software and can quickly sort the high rated images in Lightroom and start editing from there.

[gary_sc]

OK, considering that you can review all of your images in LR-C, and do rating, and do any enhancments, all in the same package at the same time, why add extra time, storage space, and energy into this double-workload.

Why not just import into LR and go to work there? It does work, I do it all of the time.

Just some thoughts

[Haraldovic]

Imagine you are moving to a new pc and had like 10.000 + images imported in Lightroom. Wouldnt that cause trouble to move to a new setup?

[gary_sc]

Hi Harold,

Probably not. But that depends on how you have your original images disperced throughout your hard drive now or 2) if you have your images on an external drive.

Personally I like my images on an external drive (I have over 60,000 images) becuase they take so much space. Please note that I also have a 2nd drive that I back up the image from one to the next one because any hard drive can fail. (I also have my catelog in the same folder on the external drive(s) so that everything is all together. 

Here's a great presentation on how to move your images from where they are to where you want them to be:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9B0lq6GJZc

[gary_sc]

Hmm, let me rephrase that first option: 1) do you have your images scattered in multiple folders all over your hard drive or do you have them all within one folder or 2) do you have your images on an external drive now?

And where is your catalog?

Sorry for my poor writing...

[DdeGannes]

There is a fundamental difference between Lightroom and Bridge. Lightroom is a non-destructive editor, i.e it does not write to the file by default, it stores every function you perform in the Lightroom Catalog file. When you work with a file in Lightroom it is always reading and writing to the Catalog file, the info is in the Catalog file!!!!.

The only time Lightroom will read metadata from an xmp file automatically would be at the initial import.

There is an option in Lightroom to write info to the file so that the info is available to ACR/Bridge. Lightroom does not read from the file automatically. This is performed as a background function.

Bridge, is a file browser and cannot read or write to the Lightroom Catalog file. ACR is a plugin for Photoshop which only reads and writes to the file and has no access to the Lightroom Catalog file. So as far as Bridge and ACR are concerned the info is in the file.

[leed73221616]

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[AALA CREATIVE]

perfect question..

[angelinad82307529]

Hey, I have the same question: I work with Bridge and wonder how to sync the ratings of jpgs and raw files. Did you get a solution by now?

[angelinad82307529]

I found a solution, installing a script:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/bridge/how-to-view-raw-and-jpg-as-stacked-automatically/td-p/11423095

Works fine! 
Poor Adobe progress...

[siviroons97073396]

Is the script work if my rating is on jpeg only?  Want to transfer the rating from jpeg to RAW  file without doing it manually. 

ps.  have tried running the script  byt nothing happened.

[john beardsworth]

If both groups of files are in Lightroom, see my Syncomatic plugin http://lightroomsolutions.com/plug-ins/syncomatic/