In-camera "camera style" vs "Camera Matching Style" on RAW+JPG

[Malthouse Photography]

Hi, I use both LR Classic and LR CC. I know I've seen the answer to this somewhere but can't find it.

Usually I'm shooting professionally and using RAW and use the Profile "Adobe Colour" on images edited in LR Classic, on my PC, images taken on a Sony A7iii. That's my default. I'm happy with it.

I'm trying things I've not done before and it's got me in a muddle.

I'm in play mode in this instance. I've dug out an old Sony RX100 and, like many cameras, it has "Camera Style" options for images to show them In camera. I've taken the B&W camera style and tweaked it slightly (more contrast mainly). I'm shooting RAW+JPG so that whilst I might use the JPG immediately I've got the RAW to edit properly later on. A little street photography to keep my mind amused.

Yesterday was the first time trying this all out. I shot on the RX100, plugged the SD reader into my iPhone and imported the contents of the SD card into my phone. Sure enough I could see B&W image from the camera on the Camera Roll.

Then I went to LR CC and it imported the files from my Camera Roll. But it ignored the in-camera profiles completely, showed me the unedited RAW files with no B&W at all. I ended up having to edit them all to get a B&W profile onto them.

Now the B&W camera style was only intended to be a starting point for some street photography but it's a shortcut rather than starting with the colour image. It was especially confusing as I'd also shot some on the iPhone and they were in colour so I had to keep checking what I was editing.

Is there any way to get LR CC (and/or Classic) to allow me to shoot RAW+JPG (or just RAW) and to honour the in-camera camera style that I've applied?

[Jim Wilde · Accepted solution]

Have you changed the Raw Default settings in the LrMobile app on your iPhone (and in LrClassic if you want to import directly into there)? If not, you must do that to have any chance of having that in-camera style recognised and applied by Lightroom. For images that you've already imported, you could use the Profile Browser in the edit panel to see if there is a camera-matching profile for that specific picture style. If there is one, then you can apply it after import or during import if you've changed the Raw Default (on iPhone it's in the App Settings>Import menu>Raw Default Settings, in LrC it's in Preferences>Presets>Raw Defaults).

I don't believe that LrM has the option to import Raw+Jpeg pairs, although LrClassic does.

BTW, there is no app called "LR CC". There is Lightroom Classic, or Lightroom (Desktop/Mobile/Web).

[Malthouse Photography]

Jim, thanks.

I'd not changed defaults for import on LR Mobile so RAW default was Adobe default and not "Camera settings". I shall try with that next time and see where it leads.

I shoot RAW+JPG usually so went with what I knew even though I was going a mobile route. If it doesn't do both then I'll simply turn off the JPG option and save space on the card and iPhone.

As for your "BTW" - I struggle to understand the naming, to be honest. I used "Lightroom" then there was the Creative Cloud and they renamed what I used to Classic for reasons best known to themselves. I use Classic on my PC but can't have that on my Mac as well so I use Lightroom Desktop on there and on my iPad and iPhone I use the Mobile version - but got the impression that the version I was using on Mac/iPad/iPhone were all unde the banner of LR CC to differentiate them from the LR Classic on the PC. My mistake if not.

[Jim Wilde]

The "CC" thing was initially appended to most of the Adobe creative cloud related products, so Lightroom Classic was actually "Lightroom Classic CC", Photoshop was "Photoshop CC" and Lightroom was "Lightroom CC". Several years ago, the "CC" was dropped across the entire Adobe suite, but many users still post using the "LR CC" term. We wouldn't have a problem with that except that just before the introduction of the "Lightroom Classic" name (version 7.0), the previous version (Lightroom 6) had two names as it was available either as a perpetual license or via subscription. The perpetual license version was known usually known as "LR6", the subscription version was known as "Lightroom CC2015" which of course was shortened to "LR CC". More often than not we can figure out which version of Lightroom a user is referring to, but not always.....so whenever we see a poster using that "LR CC" term we'll generally try to explain that it no longer exists, in order to prevent future confusion. 

[Malthouse Photography]

Jim, that was as helpful as your first answer! Thanks for that. I've been with LR since 1.0 (obviously therefore on desktop) all on PC and went subscription not long after that started which is why I got even more confused going through LR CC which became Classic and seeing "creative cloud" used with things.

I shall try to be more explicit with future posts and abandon the CC suffix. 😉