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Photos look terrible when exported!

New Here ,
Nov 29, 2020 Nov 29, 2020

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I have edited a big batch of photos for my college projects which are due in mid December.   The photos look great in Lightroom. When I export they look awful, colors look bad, they are noisy even though I used noise reduction. I tried to correct to the exported image instead, and ignored what Lightroom was showing me, this didn’t work. My images looked even worse.

I even converted a few to tiff and used them on our college Macs and they looked terrible still.  I also tried to see if I used the Lightroom IOS app and export that way would it help, but it looks just as bad!

 

I am using a new canon, CR3 files. Can someone please help, I can’t even post these to social media! Never mind use them for a college project.

 

i just bought this camera and Lightroom is ruing the quality of my photos! I do t see why I’d bother even using this if I can’t export what I see inside the application. I don’t wanna have to start this all over again!

 

these are screen shots from (1st)Lightroom and the export(2nd). This was from my phone, but the computer is the same issue.

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The second image looks way better in my opinion. The noise reduction looks very artificial in the first. One of the things to look out for is that the noise reduction in the zoomed-out view is not accurate. You should only judge the noise reduction and sharpening settings while zoomed in to 100% which on the phone you do by double tapping. Never try to adjust noise reduction while zoomed out. This is true in all digital imaging software and is caused by the scaling down to screen size.

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This is only an example of what’s going on. I did these edits on my computer not my phone. I can’t accurately edit my images now because of this problem. It should export whatever I’m doing to myimages, whether it be right or wrong. 

Its very obvious when I take my images over to the develop.

forgetting Noise reduction, the colors aren’t accurately rendered, the red on her lips are not what I edited. Trust me, these screen shots don’t show how much this software isn’t doing it’s jib.

I don’t really want opions on how the photos look, I pay for this software to work how I ask it to, not to ignore me. I’ve got assignments due.

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Tomorrow I will screen shot other photos, they look completely wrong. I just wanna know if I should reinstall the software. Sometimes it comes up with error messages when rendering saying the file is like damaged or something and then later it will render.

or is it my CR3 files don’t work with lightroom?

or i am using a boot camp Mac and I don’t have the latest windows. I saw a setting called “enhanced detail” that you need a more recent form of windows? But like that would mean that Lightroom is just downsampling my 32.5 mp file? 

Like there’s more than just noise and sharpness issues, my colors are completely wrong, using my IOS and computer, so I’d imagine that this isn’t a screen calibration issue.

 

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You definitely should calibrate your screen on that bootcamped Mac. The display will be completely wrong otherwise. Also most recent Macs have wide gamut displays so just assuming sRGB for them will be wrong. Also, on windows many applications are not correctly color managed, so even if you are well calibrated, many apps and especially important for this discussion, the built-in default photo viewer in windows is not color managed and so will not show the correct color. If your display is wide gamut, the result is that exported files will look way too saturated. They aren't but the lack of color management leads to this. On Mac OS X everything is color managed and so if you are calibrated well, you can expect images to look correct in any app. iOS also color manages everywhere but as already said, the screens are not all calibrated and you need to turn off all the color change modes to get somewhat accurate color.

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One thing to realize is that you cannot ever trust the color you see on any phone. None of them are well calibrated. Apple's phones are slightly better calibrated than anything else but only if you turn off all the automatic modes (night shift, true tone, etc.) as they all mess up the color. On a desktop computer, you can only trust the color you see if you calibrate your computer using specialised hardware. It is basically impossible to trust the color otherwise and if your computer is uncalibrated and you compare to a phone, you will always see different color. Even worse, since the overwhelming majority of other people have uncalibrated screens, they will all see something different than you. This is an unfortunate reality of digital imaging. Best thing to do is to calibrate your own screen and export onlty to sRGB files. If you put a phone/Pad in the mix, be wary of most Android devices and for Apple devices turn off all the automatic screen modes. 

 

If you are dealing with noise reduction and sharpening, only look at your image at 1:1 zoom while changing settings. Ignore what it looks like zoomed out as you simply cannot judge the display in any piece of software. This is especially true for high ISO or otherwise noisy images that need a lot of noise reduction. Only way to judge what the noise reduction is doing is to zoom into thee pixel level.

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Nov 30, 2020 Nov 30, 2020

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I did calibrate my screen to the limited way windows let you. 

I have used Lightroom before on a uncalibrated screen, and never had this issue. Just slight inaccuracies. This isn’t just inaccurate, it’s making my 32.mp canon look like it’s 10mp phone.

Also I did not mention, when I edit JPEGs, this isn’t a non issue.

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Is* a non issue

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Like just wanna say.. the edited photo looks the exact same on my phone in Lightroom on the computer as it does on my phone screen.. I just when it’s exported on either it changes radically

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I’m nearly at the point when im Gunnar have to screenshot the Lightroom screen and crop around the photo instead of exporting it

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The windows calibration is useless especially on a wide-gamut display. You need to use actual calibration hardware such as Spyder Pro, ColorMunki, etc.. This is essential for digital photography. Most schools will have one and local photo clubs often own one to borrow out to members. Libraries also sometimes have one to borrow. You can sometimes get away with the manual calibration by comparing reference files to prints of those files but this is a hard manual process. Point is without hardware calibration you can never be sure that what you are seeing is real.

 

What are your export settings? How are you viewing the export? If you use color managed viewers, the exported images will look identical to what you see in Lightroom and will look good everywhere even if you don't export to sRGB (which is still recommended but color managed viewers take care of that). If you see large color shifts, you are not viewing the images in a color managed viewer. Also, make sure your jpeg quality setting and resolution are high enough. The default quality setting is too low. You also need a large enough size to make your images not look blurry. 

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Hi thanks so much for your help! I’ll for sure see can I borrow a color calibration tool from college and follow your other advice about the noise reduction.

sorry was very stressed out.

but I fixed the issue.

i deleted lightroom, updated windows and then installed light room classic instead. I can see the colors are much more normal now, only see that I need to definitely do a bit of calibration, but am not getting the wild differences in exports anymore.

thanks again for your help!

i saw someone with the same problem that fixed it in a different post thread and didn’t reply when people asked how it was fixed.

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