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Understanding searching in Lightroom CC

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Feb 27, 2019

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I find it strange that if I want to find pics with keywords such as "basketball" "indoor" the results are pics of both keywords not the keywords together. I want to find indoor basketball pics...

I see you can do it by searching not the keyword but whatever the microscope icon means. That in itself is odd because there is no sequential order in the return it comes back by relavance. I know that can be changed after the fact but odd.

What is the trick to searching in CC and especially when you want to find keywords you have inputted together. Again, I keyword people so if I want to find pics of Justin and Jordyn together what is the best way to do this?

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Understanding searching in Lightroom CC

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I find it strange that if I want to find pics with keywords such as "basketball" "indoor" the results are pics of both keywords not the keywords together. I want to find indoor basketball pics...

I see you can do it by searching not the keyword but whatever the microscope icon means. That in itself is odd because there is no sequential order in the return it comes back by relavance. I know that can be changed after the fact but odd.

What is the trick to searching in CC and especially when you want to find keywords you have inputted together. Again, I keyword people so if I want to find pics of Justin and Jordyn together what is the best way to do this?

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Feb 28, 2019

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AFAIK, it is not (yet) possible to do an AND search in Lightroom CC. Searches on multiple words are always considered as OR.

-- Johan W. Elzenga, http://www.johanfoto.com

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I am confused. I am pretty sure the search is supposed to be an AND logical search, not an or. You can see that if you keep adding search terms, it finds fewer and fewer. Do realize that the search searches both the keywords that the artificial intelligence called sensei adds to your images (they are invisible so you can't edit those!) and the manual keywords. sensei is not always the smartest. You can't turn off the searching of sensei keywords.

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Yeah, you're right. I didn't test it and because of what the OP said I assumed it was OR, not AND, but it's the opposite. Sensei can do stupid things. Take this example, where Sensei has found three photos of Elephants, taken in Norway... It also finds them when I combine 'Elephant' and 'Sweden', so I guess they live somewhere at the border of the two countries.

Screenshot 2019-03-01 at 11.06.28.jpg

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The landscape has changed considerably since the last time I visited that region! I guess global warming is extending the range for elephants considerably 😉

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I too am confused.

When using the 'refine search' (the funnel icon next to the search bar), If I filter using the 'People' drop down and choose 'Andrew', for example, I get 90 photos. When I drop it down again and also tick 'Emily', then I get 118 photos. Clearly that is an 'OR' operation if the set size grew by adding another person. Clearly in this case, it is a 'union' operation.

What if I want only photos that contain BOTH 'Andrew' AND 'Emily'? (set 'intersection')

(Or, what if I want photos that contain ('Andrew' AND (NOT 'Emily'))? (set 'subtraction')

It seems like there should be search syntax to do this. If not, consider this a feature request.

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You're right if you select people from the popup it behaves as "or". That is different than when you type the name and hit return without selecting the person specifically. Very strange behavior indeed. If you want images with two people in it it only seems to work if you type on name without explicitly selecting the person and than select the other person from the person popup. You can't manually type the two names as separate things to search for and you can't select the two persons since that behaves like an "or". Very unfriendly

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May be worth creating a post of the Feedback site Eric, so it can be highlighted to the engineers:

Lightroom Desktop (Cloud-based) | Photoshop Family Customer Community

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I think I've got it! Search for Justin and pull up all his pics, then add '&Jordyn' and all your pics will show only both of them. Stu, Serosensa

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