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[Locked] Killing MUSE? WTF?????

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WTF Adobe?  You suddenly decide to kill MUSE when so many people's livelihoods depend on it?

Hey,

As of now, we don't have enough words to express our regret.

However, I have started a discussion on discussing alternative solutions and migration paths - https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2470136 and will be inviting our experts here to participate.

Please bookmark this forum post for reference.

Regards,

Ankush

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[Locked] Killing MUSE? WTF?????

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Mar 26, 2018

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WTF Adobe?  You suddenly decide to kill MUSE when so many people's livelihoods depend on it?

Hey,

As of now, we don't have enough words to express our regret.

However, I have started a discussion on discussing alternative solutions and migration paths - https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2470136 and will be inviting our experts here to participate.

Please bookmark this forum post for reference.

Regards,

Ankush

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Hey,

As of now, we don't have enough words to express our regret.

However, I have started a discussion on discussing alternative solutions and migration paths - https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2470136 and will be inviting our experts here to participate.

Please bookmark this forum post for reference.

Regards,

Ankush

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Muse was the second notice. The first notice was about killing Business Catalyst. My question is, will they give us a way to convert our Muse Web files into Dreamweaver? Of course thats assuming they're not killing Dreamweaver too.

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https://forums.adobe.com/people/Jeff+Reedy  wrote

My question is, will they give us a way to convert our Muse Web files into Dreamweaver?

Export your MU projects to native HTML, CSS and JavaScript files.  You can open those files in ANY code editor you wish including Dreamweaver.

Nancy O'Shea, ACP
Alt-Web.com

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I did that already so I know it works, but I’m pretty much a code novice. I believe it was my GoLive website that I converted to Dreamweaver, when Adode dumped it. I muddled my way through Dreamweaver for a while until I started using Muse which was great for me. So now I’m one of those 2000 plus users who‘s a little ticked with Adobe. Thanks for the feedback.

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Ankush, I feel bad for you Adobe employees who have to deal with the fallout from this atrocious, unethical and callous decision to end BC and Muse. You'll probably be on the chopping block next after they make you have to deal with this mess, seeing how disloyal Adobe is.

You may not have enough words to express your regret, but I don't have enough words to express my heartache and rage. I literally almost fainted when I saw the news about Muse -- my working life is that dependent on this software. What Adobe has done to all the people who have come to depend on Muse is despicable. They created a market and filled a special niche that people came to heavily depend on and then, oops! Sorry! Go to hell.

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Regret means nothing. This is our livelihood.  Adobe makes billions and you want to ruin small design practices who have embraced your products. You are right there are no words. You have committed a terrible crime here. I for one will investigate how to report your company for terrible trade practices. Don't apologize make this right

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You know Ankush, I really liked using Muse and it would have been nice if Adobe had presented for some of us a storefront option within Muse that could have been hosted by Business Catalyst. The only shopping cart offered that I'm aware of was Shopify widget by QooQee. Which meant my storefront would be hosted by Shopify. My problem with Shopify is they have a transaction charge for every purchase. 3dcart on the other hand has no transaction fee, but then your kind of stuck with their boiler-templates. If Adobe had wanted to get into the business of web hosting, and hosting e-commerce websites, I felt like Muse was the perfect front end software for the job.

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They will never kill Dreamweaver. Programs like Muse are what make it harder for real designers to make money, Use DW and learn to code. This template based nonsense is a welcomed demise IMO

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1. Muse was not 'template based' - you could utilize (and fully customize) a 3rd party template with Muse or design totally from scratch. 2. People do not need to 'learn code' just to satisfy YOUR selfish needs and dictates.

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There's nothing selfish about telling the truth, I've been in the business over 20 years and seem people come into the business with these apps like "Muse" and hurt the industry because these guys can't code or really even design. If you learned how to do it the right way you wouldn't need muse. IMO Sorry, not Sorry

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Oh please, you're having a hissy fit because new technologies make it easier for people to create websites on their own - SELFISH.

Newsflash: whether its Muse or a host of other options either already available or soon to come - technology IS going to make it easier for those who dont want to code to design websites. Loads of people who know who to code are awful at design. Deal with it and stop trying to dictate what is the 'right way.'

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And you're having a hissy that Muse is going away. I'm not here to argue, the forum isn't for that. Bottom Line: These apps hurt the industry and you wouldn't be worried about it leaving of you knew how to design/develop the "RIGHT WAY".

P.S. I agree on the coders and awful design. I have to fix that nonsense all the time. Luckily I'm good at both.

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I'll deal with Muse going away and finding a replacement option on my own terms, not yours. Unlike you I am not trying to deny the reality of where technology is headed and give pompous dictates about what is the 'right way' for the rest of the world simple because of how things affect YOUR wallet.

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Triggered Much!

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Reality check. Deal with it

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What's wrong sweetie can't code?

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The one in every crowd shows us his rear end. This isn’t the first time Adobe dropped an application because it’s further development was difficult. The bottom line, was the only thing the head honchos were looking at here. Shortsightedness didn’t put a man on the moon. Someone will build it.

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So you can't code either, got it!

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Who does your taxes?

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Me I'm smart like that Back Fire

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No, you’re a smart arse. Do you have employees? Do you deprecate equipment? Do you file as a corporation? I do. Not everyone does their own taxes, this is where companies like Intuit with TurboTax and companies like H&R Block and small independent professional tax preparers come in. It’s sort of similar to professional website designers.

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I have 56 employees, deprecate equipment over five years, LLC with the S-Corp Election, File an 1120s Corporate, 1040 for the personal. I use Drake Tax Software because it's the best. Did taxes and accounting while going through college. I still silent partner of a office that does tax services including payroll. H&R Block is crap. I've never touched Turbo Tax in my life. 

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Drake Tax Software? But you were just telling me how smart you are. Why do you need Drake Tax Software? Why don’t you do it yourself without the aid of software to get you through the tax code?

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Every Professional who's worth it uses Drake, it's the best. Pretty much the standard. Web design is nothing like taxes I thought you were smart enough to know that You're just upset you couldn't stomp me on the tax question. Caught you off guard Try another course, you already lost this round.

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Au contraire. Website design in code is very much like the tax code, and some people. Redundant and obtuse. Which is why Muse and Drake were created.

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No wonder you need Muse! Good luck finding a replacement there genius.

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No wonder you need Drake, Einstein. Why do you feel the need to use Dreamweaver?

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Don't be upset I'm smarter then you. Dreamweaver, why? I can code. Coda is better for coders. I can design as well, and edit video, and do motion graphics, 3D, Color Grading, the list goes on and on. Have fun with your app search, I'm headed to a yacht party.

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smarter “than” you - don’t fall off your boat drunk on your ego trip.

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@

Nancy O'Shea, ACP
Alt-Web.com

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https://www.change.org/p/adobe-systems-adobe-do-not-discontinue-muse

Absolute Disgrace!!!!!!!! Sign to get adobe's attention!

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classaction.org is the answer

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This is the 2nd time I run into this with Adobe.  The 1st time was with their backend to Adobe Forms which they pulled unexpectedly and I had to scramble to get them into Jotform.  I really appreciated that JotForm was there to help import my forms.

I am deeply disappointed in Adobe eliminating this platform especially since I have depended on it since its Alpha days.  Yes I am one of the charter members to Muse.  Unfortunately I have convinced a number of friends to try it.  They have come to like the product and now I guess I have egg on my face for spreading the word about Adobe Muse.  I certainly hope these friends of mine forgive me.

Muse and Business Catalyst has been my foundation for Web design and publishing since 2011.  Because I had Muse I also wanted to keep my supporting products under the same supplier.  For example I use Photoshop for images etc.  That said if I go to another product I may be moving all my applications elsewhere.

I have to say that I really thought that if I go with Adobe there would be longevity in what ever they provide. 

Sorry to see it end this way.

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As has been pointed out in other forums, this app inst being deprecated due to security issues (Flash) or lack of relevance. Only Adobe knows why and isn't saying. I do have to wonder if there isn't a contractual obligation between parties that has been breached...with so many design based developers relying on the product I wonder if we have legal recourse.....any lawyers out there? Is this a eligible for a class action suit? I know many of us have standing with multiple accounts built on the platform and no new solution provided. The arrogance of Adobe to drop this with no solution/substitution offered, for people who have depended on them in business is..........astounding! Looking for non-Adobe alternatives now and if I leave I wont come back...I am sure I'm not alone.

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classaction.org go there and fill in a request for a lawsuit. Better than a petition and if enough of us do that they will start a lawsuit

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Hi everybody,

I found this link in another post, a petition has been started:

https://www.change.org/p/adobe-systems-adobe-do-not-discontinue-muse

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classaction.org go there and ask for a lawsuit to be started regarding this Muse travesty. We will all be losing a lot of money becasue of this however we wouldn't want Adobe to lose a fraction of a cent that would be terrible NOT.  Heartless is what this is and I do hope bad Karma comes to those that made this decision.  But we can have a voice by starting a classaction.org

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