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Muse and system fonts

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Dec 10, 2019 Dec 10, 2019

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Downloading fonts from a website called Dafont, When putting it in to muse the text exports as an image as it tells me ... and turns out extremely blurry,  please help !!! thanks 

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Dec 10, 2019 Dec 10, 2019

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System fonts have to be installed on the end user's device or they won't see them.   Unfortunately Muse converts system font text to images which is all wrong.  Search engines and translators cannot read images of text.  So a much better approach is to use embedded web fonts from Google, Edge or Adobe Fonts (formerly typekit). See links below. 

 

Embedded web fonts will work on all devices.  There is nothing for you or your end users to install.

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User, Community Expert & Moderator
Alt-Web Design & Publishing ~ Web : Print : Graphics : Media

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Dec 11, 2019 Dec 11, 2019

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Nancy isn’t right. Unfortunately she has no real idea, how Muse is working, because she never ever used it.

You can use system fonts. But they have to be converted to an image during export, because Muse can’t guarantee, that your visitors have these fonts installed. So forget Nancy’s statement "Unfortunately Muse converts system font text to images which is all wrong.". Muse can’t do anything else, but convert these kind of fonts, if you want to use them (Muse warns you with an icon, when you do it.)

DA Fonts is a huge collection of free system fonts. But system fonts are no web fonts. Therefore there is definitely no other way for Muse) and any other web creation software) to display these fonts on your web site, than converting them into an image.

 

Muse can’t know, which fonts are installed on the machines/devices of the visitors of your site. That is why it has to convert system fonts to images. Therefore (and for other reasons) always use standard fonts (are supposed to be installed on every machine) or web fonts, which will be loaded to your visitor’s machine temporarily, when they open your site.

Additionally: When a textbox with a system font applied has to be converted to an image, this image will be scaled proportionally (as images do), if your site is responsive and the browser is resized. In opposite to that, „normal“ text elements don’t scale proportionally, but only horizontally. Evidently this may cause heavy design issues of your site!

1. If a text box will be converted it is indicated by a small icon bottom right of the text element:1248673_Text_conversion.jpg

 

2. If you have a closer look into Muse’s font menu, you will notice, that the behaviour, I described, is indicated there too:

 

1248683_Muse_Fontmenu.jpg

 

 

By the way Nancy told us, that "search engines cannot read images of text". This is only part of the truth. Muse copies the original text into the "alt text" tag of this image, so the text doesn’t get lost. This can be verified easily, by having a short look into the exported source code. So search engines of course can access the converted text.

(More and more I hate it, to spend more time in correcting the contributions of some "specialists" instead of focussing to answer the user’s questions. No indea, what leads people to answer a question, if they aren’t familiar with the subject …)

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I have used Muse and I stand by my previous remarks.  Don't use custom system fonts which Mu converts to images.  It's a seriously flawed approach to web design.  The  Adobe geniuses who thought this would be a good idea were wrong.  Embedded Web Fonts are a much better approach.

 

Good luck with your project!

 

 

 

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User, Community Expert & Moderator
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If you read my  comment precisely, you'll see, that I never denied this. I even explained why this is an issue and what to do instead. I only rejected the statements, which I quoted. They are definitely wrong. What should Muse do, if someone uses system fonts, if not warn the user and, if the he doesn't react to the warning, convert this text to an image and carry the text over to the alt text tag?

(By the way: In a different thread, you have declared, that you never built a site with Muse, because of the bad code, it creates. Please stand to your own words.)

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MU is suitable for prototyping.  I use other tools for production work.

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User, Community Expert & Moderator
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Fine! Then we perhaps will see a helpful, Muse related answer from you to a Muse related question in a near future. And I hereby don't think of a link to a different application or a code snippet, which isn't relevant for Muse, or finally a solution, which doesn't mislead the asking user. 🙂

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