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Hi all

I have Adobe Muse and have requested cancellation. I have created a website that includes two fonts/three weights: Museo Sans (500/700) and Bebas Neue, and the fonts need to be present on the website after the Muse app is cancelled. Both fonts are available on TypeKit on the free plan for web use.

My first question is:

After Muse cancels presumably the TypeKit fonts will still work based on the free plan?

One thing that confuses me a bit is in TypeKit the fonts aren't listed as being used - even though they are currently working on the Muse created website, though there appears to be page views happening:

Screen Shot 2018-01-14 at 21.04.43.png

My second question is:

If I would like the page view limit to go beyond 25K then I simply upgrade to the Portfolio plan?

Many thanks for your help.

Correct answer by liz_g | Adobe Employee

Thanks for giving me a shout on this thread, Guenter! It sounds like the original poster's question may be sorted, but for other folks and future thread reference:

If you plan on cancelling Creative Cloud subscription but have built websites with Muse that use fonts from Typekit, Typekit Support can change your account to a standalone font subscription. That subscription would provide the web font licensing and font hosting for your sites for as long as you'd like to keep using the fonts from Typekit.

More information on the plan options and prices (outside of Creative Cloud) are listed at https://typekit.com/plans .  You can also reach our team with any questions at support@typekit.com.

Best,

-- liz

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Muse cancellation + Typekit

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Hi all

I have Adobe Muse and have requested cancellation. I have created a website that includes two fonts/three weights: Museo Sans (500/700) and Bebas Neue, and the fonts need to be present on the website after the Muse app is cancelled. Both fonts are available on TypeKit on the free plan for web use.

My first question is:

After Muse cancels presumably the TypeKit fonts will still work based on the free plan?

One thing that confuses me a bit is in TypeKit the fonts aren't listed as being used - even though they are currently working on the Muse created website, though there appears to be page views happening:

Screen Shot 2018-01-14 at 21.04.43.png

My second question is:

If I would like the page view limit to go beyond 25K then I simply upgrade to the Portfolio plan?

Many thanks for your help.

Correct answer by liz_g | Adobe Employee

Thanks for giving me a shout on this thread, Guenter! It sounds like the original poster's question may be sorted, but for other folks and future thread reference:

If you plan on cancelling Creative Cloud subscription but have built websites with Muse that use fonts from Typekit, Typekit Support can change your account to a standalone font subscription. That subscription would provide the web font licensing and font hosting for your sites for as long as you'd like to keep using the fonts from Typekit.

More information on the plan options and prices (outside of Creative Cloud) are listed at https://typekit.com/plans .  You can also reach our team with any questions at support@typekit.com.

Best,

-- liz

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I recommend to watch out at fonts.google.com for those two.

Download them and use them as self hosted webfonts.

To do this use Create Your Own @font-face Kits » Font Squirrel ​ (use Woff and SVG in the EXPERT mode) and import them via the text panel as self hosted webfonts. As they are open fonts from google font it should be no problem with licensing, I guess.

Then you are safe about that typekit (I call it an issue) .

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Uwe

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richardh57098679  wrote

My first question is:

After Muse cancels presumably the TypeKit fonts will still work based on the free plan?

there is no free plan for Muse

web hosting is the job of your host server... Adobe BC has free test pages that Muse can use so if you hosted the site as one of these it will stay up for a year as active then get archived i.e, yes it stays up

if you hosted with some 3rd party or fully lunched it on Abobe BC then the hosting cost are on going and nothing to do with Muse... of course you would not be able to make edits

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I understood it in a way, that the thread opener is afraid about the type kits free plan during the "normal" subscription time period.

As far as I understood the licensing from typekit, the fonts (Museo Sans (500/700) and Bebas Neue) get replaced by some default webfonts, once the subscription ends or gets terminated? Isn't that true?

The website keeps uploaded for ever, of course .

Best Regards,

Uwe

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i read it as he thinks the typekit plan in Muse is the same as the free typekit plan they offer... this isn't so

the deal they have with Adobe is different to the one they have with Google and it doesn't auto jump across... even if the same fonts are in both plans

I agree with you that self hosting the fonts as google free plan is the best option as long as he does this before ending his Muse sub but otherwise I expect the fonts will be turned into Arial or some other default web safe font... have never tested this senario

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Yes Ussnorway​, I agree with you.

Best Wishes,

Uwe

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Typekit fonts, won’t work any more, when the subscription is cancelled.

„Bebas Neue“ is available as an „Edge“ font via Muse’s font menus. Edge fonts don’t expire. Edge fonts are a free service and not tied to a Creative Cloud account.

Unfortunately „Museo Sans“ isn’t available as an Edge font. But „Museo Sans“ isn’t THAT unique. You certainly will be able to replace it by a similar Edge font, for example „Open Sans“.

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Both fonts are available vis google fonts, though.

Uwe

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Thanks everyone.

So, even though I have a Typekit free plan, they won't work on the website once the Muse subscription has stopped. I was thinking about buying the Portfolio Typekit plan but if Muse must be subscribed to then it's of course not worth doing this.

I have seen Museo Sans on Google Fonts but it refers me to Monotype, therefore not an open font.

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Actually, they're free on Monotype.

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What is „free on Monotype“? Museo? And if: The system font or the web font? This is not the same!

And: What is a TypeKit free plan? Never heard of that. But that Pavel Homeriki​ already pointed out.

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The free Typekit plan is shown below:

Screen Shot 2018-01-15 at 11.44.33.png

TBH, it's not clear to me if they're system or web fonts on fonts.com - I think they're probably system fonts.

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I would suggest, to write an email to support@typekit.com, including a link to this thread.

I additionally would like to invite Liz, Typekit Supportto have a look at this thread.

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Okay, as I understand it, in Muse I can replace the fonts in this way:

- Bebas Neue from Typekit to Edge Web

- Museo Sans to Open Sans (or similar Edge Web font)

So, all fonts are Edge Web. And then re-publish to the server, then when the Museo subscription finishes nothing should change.

Does that sound right to you? I think this is much the easiest solution if so.

I understand from Adobe that now the Muse cancellation process has started I can't stop it and I must re-publish the site if I start the subscription again.

Many thanks

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Yes. Just make sure, the „Museo“ isn‘t used in your site any more.

Simply deinstall it. If there is „Museo“ still in your document, Muse will mark this text orange.

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Awesome - thanks so much for your help.

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Thanks for giving me a shout on this thread, Guenter! It sounds like the original poster's question may be sorted, but for other folks and future thread reference:

If you plan on cancelling Creative Cloud subscription but have built websites with Muse that use fonts from Typekit, Typekit Support can change your account to a standalone font subscription. That subscription would provide the web font licensing and font hosting for your sites for as long as you'd like to keep using the fonts from Typekit.

More information on the plan options and prices (outside of Creative Cloud) are listed at https://typekit.com/plans .  You can also reach our team with any questions at support@typekit.com.

Best,

-- liz

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so it isn't automattic but possible... thanks for clearing that up Liz!

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Thanks for that Liz.

However, I spoke to four separate people at Adobe Support (three on one call as I was passed around and including someone about subscriptions), and none gave me that solution. So, I changed the fonts to Edge Web fonts, sent the html to the client (in the US) who uploaded them for me and had to re-add additional tags, etc for other purposes. A lot of effort that wasn't necessary - not impressed.

So, thank you Liz, but too late - it might be worth teaching your customer support about Adobe products.

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Thanks for chiming in here, Lis!

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