P: Generated images violate user guidelines

[Hematita]

So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

[Graham24508943nobd]

I've been trying to generate a necklace but for the life of me the [cursing removed] thing is invisible every time.

[Jason Toemmes]

Here is an update.

Last week an Adobe technician reached out and I shared my screen to retest the Regenerative Fill feature again. I was able recreate the same error that started this post with the same image.

The technician asked if he could try some different wording. So my prompt was “Replace empty hand with hand holding cigar” and received the same violation notice. He then simply wrote "Place cigar in hand”, and BOOM it worked. We tried a few other tobacco related items with different images and it worked.

So it turns out the wording or phrasing a request is sometimes the problem that they are aware of, and said when this feature is officially released they hope the AI figures this stuff out. BUT as for my overall concerns regarding censorship we can confirm it does not like guns, pistols, 38 special revolvers. or any other firearms. It would be interesting if it allows laser blasters for Sci fi art or not. 

This feels like a corporate nanny culture policy and authoritarian move to silence wrong think. Many won’t care until the art they are innocently trying to create are denied for themselves. If they can censor what you can create with Regenerative Fill nothing could stop them from preventing you using any Adobe software at all in the future. 

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@Jason Toemmes I was with you until that last part. Seems a pretty extreme leap of assumption there.

[Gregusaurus]

The biggest problem I have in generative fill is a repeating error message that generative images have been removed becaue they violate user guidlinges. This can happen  on any kind of image. Tring to extend the  image on an innocent photo of a person it also gets this error.  Photoshop Beta 24.7, Mac OS Ventura 13.4 

[Jason Toemmes]

Well we have this post to look back on if I am wrong, bet the current trend with tech companies and censoring it's users as of late are not in your favor. 

[Trevor.Dennis]

It's annoying, isn't it?  I had it happen when answering a forum question using the OP's image that they had already created with Generative Fill, so it had to have worked for him, but it blocked me with the exact same image!  Adobe are being super cautious, no doubt because of the bad press Ai has been getting.  I am not sure if the world is worried about being wiped out by Sky Net Terminators, or if the next POTUS being a computer.  It would be ironic if that happens to Adobe and a future Adobe MAX opens with a Crey Super Computer on stage!

Anyway, I am getting around the issue by copying the problem area — two ladies in swim suites in this case  — and bluring it enough to fool Gen Fill.  Then blending in the unblurred pixels from the original above the Gen Filled layer.

[Gregusaurus]

It happens so often that even Adobe youtubers who have vidoes on the new generative  fill show it happening. One of the claimed work arounds is to put in a text prompt , but that rarely works and leads to odd result. How does the ai "see" what is being worked on and then interprest it incorrectly?

I would think the  ai engineers aleardy know that it is a common problem. 

[defaultx3m0mue7jsip]

thisd works brilliantly

[SvetlanaDSF]

I'm getting a repeated error that my AI generated images are being removed due to guidelines violation. The image I'm trying to generate is meant to fill the missing spot on a wall. There is nothing at all suspicious so please investigate this false positive case. Attached is a screenshot with the black blurb at the bottom being the area I'm trying to fill.

[Sandras Eyecatcher]

Habe Photoshop Beta installiert. Allerdings egal welche Schlagwörter ich benutze bei der KI Foto-Erstellung, kommt sofort die Meldung das ich gegen die Richtlinien verstoße. Was muss ich tun, um normale KI Fotos erstellen zu können?

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

Can you share some examples of the image and prompts you are using?

[Frank274400944gq0]

I'm a professional wedding photographer and have been doing this for well over a decade now. The most common things that I do is remove blinking eyes by copying it from another photo and pointing someones foot more forward during a bride/groom dip.

Every time that I select the eyes and type (remove eyes) or foot (remove foot) I get a response that I violated the guidelines.

Now, I get that you don't want people to make somone look deformed, but I use this almost daily. This is my right as a paid user to use this however I would like. It is NOT the job of adobe to police what I can and cannot do with my photos. I feel like this is clearly not a good business decision on your part. 

I do not agree with you resticting the use of this prodect to manipulate an image with zero context on your end. 

Since when did adobe become so ridiculously liberal in it's actions? Please stop. I am not violating your meaningless terms. Your acting worse than internet fact checkers. 

[Graham24508943nobd]

Couldn't agree more. We're paying a HUGE sum of money to Adobe, not, to mention testing this for them. I totally grudge the fact that the violations  seem to be treating us like children. I've had a number of semi naked females show up in generations, so the fact that THEY can get away with this isn't fair in the slightest

[c.pfaffenbichler]

The Adobe creative community has over 30 million members, and I bet that every one of them gets the "user guidelines" warning several times a day. There are only two possible explanations for this: Either all 30+ million users of Photoshop are creeps, who use the program for dirty things, or Adobe must change the filter algorithm quickly.

Some Photoshop users work with Photoshop and don’t have time to play with Photoshop Beta all the time so they may never get that alert at all … 

[Bob5E9A]

PS AI is at a primitive state compared to others. If it messes up on a drawing it gives you this message to save face. 

[D Fosse]

That's right. Some of us use Photoshop for a living.

I would never put beta software on my working machine, ever, in any form.

Beta software is for testing. That's what you're doing. Don't complain, provide feedback. That's your function here, as beta testers.

[Bob5E9A]

Example. Here is a AI drawing i just did on nightcafe just using prompts. How long until PS can do this?

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@Bob5E9A have you seen Adobe Firefly?

https://firefly.adobe.com/

Text to image generative AI.

[Bob5E9A]

RE:

@Bob5E9A have you seen Adobe Firefly?

https://firefly.adobe.com/

Text to image generative AI.

Thanks Kevin! I will definitely check out Firefly. I have been using the SDXL beta.

[Bob5E9A]

Kevin,

Good results. Same prompt with Firefly:

When I try to get rid of those extra loops, better not get a rejection.

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@Deleted User some already have Photoshop plugins available.

[Sandras Eyecatcher]

[cesaraiza]

My same thinking, I work for different clients, different products, I can't use the AI if I'm working specifically for spa clients because apparently, fillers are just a big nono, it's really annoying to have to forsee what the AI could take as offensive, edit the "offensive" thing so the damn AI generates what I need. This awful biases companies impose on the AI are just awful and screwing up the potential it could have for designers.

[CAVelarde]

I tried creating a background with an Egyptian theme: Temple of Isis, and
was told a word in my prompt violated guidelines. After trial and error I
found that Adobe has a thing against the Egyptian goddess Isis. Ra and
Osiris are ok, but Bastet was “not in the English language”.
I’ll be trying Horus and a few others soon.
--
Carlos A Velarde
Alluring Exposures Photography

[phone removed as per forum guidelines]

[Gregusaurus]

CAVelarde ,  ai does not produce Egyptian motifs that look much  like ancient Egypt.  I am intersted in similer creations as you are. Even if it executed your Isis prompt I am afraid it would be a mess. That's kust the current limitation.