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Persistent Conflicts With Generative Fill and User Guideline Violations

Community Beginner ,
May 23, 2023 May 23, 2023

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Hi,

I have been working with (or lack their of) the new the generative fill features in Photoshop 24.6.0. However, the feature is mostly unusable do to persistent user guideline violation warnings. This has occurred when I use generative fill on backgrounds, facial blemishes, hair, grass, etc. I am primarily using it to evaluate how well it works during photo restorations, but it's largely unusuable. The current file I'm working with is a portrait of three people which I own the rights to. I have successfully restored this image in every other AI assisted application without any issues. 

I have reviewed the user guidelines and I don't see how I could possibly be violating any terms. Is this a known issue? Is there any method to avoid this?

Thank you,
   Jesse

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Community Expert ,
May 23, 2023 May 23, 2023

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Hi @Jesse Tyber White the violation could be due to your prompts you are entering. What are you using for prompts?

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Community Beginner ,
May 23, 2023 May 23, 2023

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Hi Kevin, 

Thanks for your reply. Prompting is not the issue, as I'm using an empty prompt, so it should be generating a corrective fill based on the surroundings. 

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Community Expert ,
May 23, 2023 May 23, 2023

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Community Beginner ,
May 23, 2023 May 23, 2023

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Naturally, I already did so. There are some sporadic instances where entering a prompt doesn't trigger a user guideline warning, but the results are entirely unusuable. In its current form, this is not a usuable tool for photo restoration. I'll stay tuned to see if these problems get corrected.

Thanks!

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Community Expert ,
May 23, 2023 May 23, 2023

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Considering it's a beta feature released today I'm sure there will be learning curves for both the tool and the users.

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Community Beginner ,
May 23, 2023 May 23, 2023

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Of course, although clearly this isn't a user learning curve error. It's a software side error.

Thanks for your time

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New Here ,
May 24, 2023 May 24, 2023

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I am running in the same issue. I'm trying to add missing body parts of different fully clothed women as showed in the Adobe Live Video from yesterday, and get always Guidline Violations. It happens if no prompt used, or just "Hand" or "Arm". 

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Community Expert ,
May 24, 2023 May 24, 2023

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It is beta - no guarantees of 100% results each time. You are testing outcomes to help train the AI. It will get better as it progresses.

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Community Beginner ,
May 24, 2023 May 24, 2023

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Yes Kevin, I imagine everyone using Photoshop Beta is aware that it is a Beta product, thus the reason we are posting relevant bugs in the Bugs section of the Photoshop Beta forum. There are currently 0% results for the actions I've specified. There are no outcomes that can be evaluated, that is the issue. 

Thank you for your time though. 

Thank you for your time though. 

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Adobe Employee ,
May 24, 2023 May 24, 2023

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Hi all, sorry to hear about this issue.  If you could share a image that you are seeing the violation with, we would be happy to test here.  Send to shubert@adobe.com

 

Any screenshots of your workspace showing your workflow or video with the error message could also be helpful.

 

Thank you,
Cory

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Community Beginner ,
May 24, 2023 May 24, 2023

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Thanks Cory! 

I'm happy to help work out the kinks with these tools! I can provide several screenshots and workflows. I'll email them to you once I'm back at my workstation.

 

Cheers! 

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Explorer ,
May 24, 2023 May 24, 2023

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I've also run into this issue. I restore photos in magazines, and that means removing information such as addresses and phone numbers, which is what gave me this prompt. Removing a part at a time seems to have eliminated the issue for now.

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New Here ,
May 24, 2023 May 24, 2023

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I’ll definitely send you some screenshots because these violation errors are not stop!

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Adobe Employee ,
May 24, 2023 May 24, 2023

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@GordonShock curious what happens if you use the Remove Tool, either in beta or in the new Ps release?

 

Thank you,
Cory

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Explorer ,
May 24, 2023 May 24, 2023

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@CoryShubert Oh the remove tool is fine, but after experimenting with this new fill, I can tell you they are leagues apart. Still, I found that one complements the other quite well if need be.

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New Here ,
May 24, 2023 May 24, 2023

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@CoryShubert It even happens to your Adobe colleagues. It seems Firefly just dosn't like pretty women 😉
I saw it yesterday as I watched the second half of the 

"Designing with Adobe Firefly & Photoshop | Adobe Live" video:

https://www.youtube.com/live/GvCUecQjEmQ?feature=share&t=17117

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New Here ,
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I have the same problem, half the images I try give me this warning.

Sometimes I can make some changes, then the warning pops up, and it won't let me go any further.

It's all a bit hit-and-miss for me, when it works it is either brilliant or hideous.

The hideous part is mainly hands and feet.

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I am glad I am not the only one having these issues with the guideline errors, someting as as simple as removing a part of a person can cause it to crop up, I have flattened the image and saved it to reopen the file doing the same action as caused the guideline popup with no issues doing the same thing as before.

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