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P: 'Blend If' Stops Working When There is a Clipped Layer on the Group

Community Beginner ,
Nov 02, 2024 Nov 02, 2024

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Hello everyone,

Today, I ran into an issue with Photoshop's "Blend If" function that I haven't encountered before. I searched online but couldn’t find any clear explanation, so I’m hoping someone here might know what's happening.

System 

I am using the latest version of Photoshop on Windows 10 Pro, version 22H2.

The Issue

When I apply the "Blend If" (underlying layer) option to a layer within a group, it works fine—until I clip any layer to that group. As soon as there's a clipped layer attached, "Blend If" stops working on that layer, regardless of whether the clipped layer is visible or hidden.

Example Setup

  1. Imagine two groups: Group 1 and Group 2.
  2. There's one layer in each group.
  3. I use the "Blend If" setting on the layer in Group 1, and it works perfectly.
  4. However, as soon as I clip a layer to Group 1, the "Blend If" effect is disabled.

I've attached a video below that demonstrates the issue for more clarity.

Any insights or solutions would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

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Adobe Employee , Nov 08, 2024 Nov 08, 2024

Thanks for sharing the details & the video. 

 

I've shared it with the team for review.

Best!

Sameer K

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 03, 2024 Feb 03, 2024

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Hi, yesterday before I save my work and close it, it was working just fine !
when I opened it this morning to continue my work, I found out that the Blend if ( Underlying layer) is not working however the current layer works !!!
Idk what should I do !! 

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Blend If underlying is one of my most used Photoshop functions, and it works just fine here.

 

What is the result you're expecting, vs the result you're actually getting?

 

People often misunderstand how color channels affect colors. Targeting the blue channel doesn't necessarily mean blue colors. It could be any color depending on the blue channel's relationship to the other color channels. Low end blue channel mainly affects yellows, for instance.

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Brother, IT DOESN'T WORK EVEN IF I CHANGE THE COLORS, and WHATEREVER I DO IT DOESN'T WORK , it's like there is no LAYER under the layer I'm currently using ! 

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The underlying layer here seems to be an all white color fill layer. So no effect with the setting you show.

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Exactly, the underlying is white, so the shadow has to disappear, but it doesn't!!

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@Mohammed Amin35223884di2d 

On your last post marked 'Look' the layer with the blend if mode looks like it is in a group but the white colour fill layer is not. What is the blend mode of the group? It would need to be 'passthrough' for the layer with blend if to interact with the layer below which is outside of the group.

 

Blend if works fine here

 

Dave

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@davescm yes the blend mode of the group is (pass through) :'(

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UPDATE

I took it off the groupe and it works now, but I still don't understand why it wasn't working when it was inside the groupe EVEN the blendmode of the groupe is ( PASSTRHOUGH) 

Thanks

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It works correctly here with the group in passthrough.
Can you go to Photoshop's Help >System info and press Copy. Then paste the info here

 

Dave

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Liquify 25.3 - from the file “Liquify.8bf”
Matlab Operation 25.3 - from the file “ChannelPort.8bf”
Maximum 25.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Mean 25.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Measurement Core 25.3 - from the file “MeasurementCore.8me”
Median 25.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Mezzotint 25.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Minimum 25.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
MMXCore Routines 25.3 - from the file “MMXCore.8bx”
Mosaic Tiles 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Multiprocessor Support 25.3 - from the file “MultiProcessor Support.8bx”
Neon Glow 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Note Paper 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
NTSC Colors 25.3 - from the file “NTSC Colors.8bf”
Ocean Ripple 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
OpenEXR 25.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Paint Daubs 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Palette Knife 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Parametric Filter NO VERSION - from the file “MaterialFilter.8bf”
Patchwork 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Paths to Illustrator 25.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
PCX 25.3 - from the file “PCX.8bi”
Photocopy 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Picture Package Filter 25.3 - from the file “ChannelPort.8bf”
Pinch 25.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Pixar 25.3 - from the file “Pixar.8bi”
Plaster 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Plastic Wrap 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Pointillize 25.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Polar Coordinates 25.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Portable Bit Map 25.3 - from the file “PBM.8bi”
Poster Edges 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Radial Blur 25.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Radiance 25.3 - from the file “Radiance.8bi”
Range 25.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Render Color Lookup Grid 25.3 - from the file “Export3DLUT.8be”
Reticulation 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Ripple 25.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Rough Pastels 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Save for Web 25.3 - from the file “Save for Web.8be”
ScriptingSupport 25.3 - from the file “ScriptingSupport.8li”
Shear 25.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Skewness 25.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Smart Blur 25.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Smudge Stick 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Solarize 25.3 - from the file “Solarize.8bf”
SP Substance Suite NO VERSION - from the file “MaterialSuite.8li”
Spatter 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Spherize 25.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Sponge 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Sprayed Strokes 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Stained Glass 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Stamp 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Standard Deviation 25.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Sumi-e 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Summation 25.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Targa 25.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Texturizer 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Tiles 25.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Torn Edges 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Twirl 25.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Underpainting 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Vanishing Point 25.3 - from the file “VanishingPoint.8bf”
Variance 25.3 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Water Paper 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Watercolor 25.3 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Wave 25.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
WIA Support 25.3 - from the file “WIASupport.8li”
Wind 25.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Wireless Bitmap 25.3 - from the file “WBMP.8bi”
ZigZag 25.3 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”

Optional and third party plugins: NONE


Duplicate and Disabled plugins: NONE


Plugins that failed to load: NONE

Unified Extensibility Platform - Extensions:

Home Screen (Loaded) 7.2.1.5 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/UXP/Extensions\com.adobe.ccx.start-7.2.1\"
CmdN: 1.19.10
UAB: 2.18.0-4
Loaded at: 90 ms - launch time impact: 642 ms
ccx-timeline (Prepared) 3.1.12.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
CCX Commenting UXP Webview (Loaded) 27.3.1.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 3957 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
CCX Sharesheet UXP (Prepared) 24.10.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Content Credentials (Loaded) 0.41.2.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 3699 ms - launch time impact: 3 ms
CC Libraries Panel (Prepared) 3.25.28.0 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/CEP/Extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_25_28\"
CAPTURE: 2.0.41 STOCK: 4.1.0
In app notifications (Loaded) 2.0.4.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 3957 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Parametric Filter (Loaded) 0.1.8.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 3961 ms - launch time impact: 2 ms
Photoshop Adjustments Panel (Loaded) 2.1.1.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 3961 ms - launch time impact: 1 ms
Photoshop UXP Export-As (Prepared) 5.8.34.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Photoshop In App Messaging (Loaded) 4.3.9.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 3965 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Information Alert (Prepared) 0.5.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Photoshop Selection Feedback (Prepared) 0.5.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Plugins Panel (Prepared) 1.4.3.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
IC popup message (Loaded) 1.0.0.0
Loaded at: 3602 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Multilayer Protection (Loaded) 1.0.0.0
Loaded at: 3602 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Discover Panel (Loaded) 2310.86.1.14 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 3965 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Neural Filters (Registered) 1.15.0.100 - from the file "Required Folder"
Scan time: 0 ms - entries: 27

Extensions:

Libraries 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_25_28\index.html”
com.adobe.stock.panel.licensing-embedded 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_25_28\extensions\stock-panel-licensing\index.html”
com.adobe.capture.extension 2.0.41 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_25_28\extensions\capture\capture.html”
Export As 4.8.15 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2024\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html”
Export As 4.8.15 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2024\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html”
com.adobe.cclibraries.manager 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_25_28\manager.html”

Installed TWAIN devices: NONE

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Community Expert ,
Feb 03, 2024 Feb 03, 2024

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@Mohammed Amin35223884di2d 

 

I see that in addition to asking here, you also sent me a PM with your question. Please ask yours questions in the forums and not by PM. Thanks Mohammed!

 

IMG_9638.jpegJane

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Community Expert ,
Feb 03, 2024 Feb 03, 2024

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Thanks for the system info.

 

The current version of Photoshop is 25.4 so you may want to update.

Also, right click in your dekstop - choose other options then NVidia control panel.  Under Manage 3D settings, program settings make sure that the NVidis GPU is the preferred GPU for both Photoshop and Sniffer.exe. That should ensure your Intel processor does not get used in compositing.

 

Dave

 

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Participant ,
Feb 04, 2024 Feb 04, 2024

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also, NVIDIA have a new driver update: Studio Driver 551.23

NVIDIA advice is to do a clean install (to avoid any confilt when updating)

NVIDIA Clean Install.png

Also to do does setting In NVIDIA Control PANEL:

NVIDIA GPU SETTING PHOTOSHOP.png

program setting_NVIDIA.png

benoit Kapture foto

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Adobe Employee ,
Nov 08, 2024 Nov 08, 2024

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Thanks for sharing the details & the video. 

 

I've shared it with the team for review.

Best!

Sameer K

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 09, 2024 Nov 09, 2024

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Thank you for acknowledging the issue, Sameer K.

I’d be glad to hear from you if you manage to find a solution to the problem.
Regards!
K.K.

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