P: Camera Raw masks move with image cropping

[MaD]

I noticed, that when I use a camera raw filter with masks on a smart object, the masks in this filter move when the document is cropped in photoshop.

1. Version of the app

Adobe Photoshop Version: 23.5.0 20220809.r.669 0e07917 arm64

2. Platform an OS version

OS: Mac OS 12.4.0

Architecture: Apple M1 Max, HybridCPU(8:2)

3. Basic steps to reproduce the problem

1.  create document with object
2. add camera raw filter to the smart object
3. add masks ins camera raw
4. leave camera raw
5. use crop tool to enlarge image
6. edit camera raw filter
7. masks should have moved. 

4. Expected result and actual result

Results can be seen in the images below. I would expect the filters to stay where I placed them

The first two images show the initial image without cropping. As you see the skymask in the second image ends exactly at the tees

 The second two images show the document after cropping. The image is extended towards the sky to reveal more of the milky way. After cropping the skymask moved up and doesn't end exactly at the trees anymore.

All masks in camera raw filter used on smart objects behave the same. I notices this movement also on a gradient filter layer in my layer stack.

Anyone knows if PS should behave like this? Or is it a setting?

Thank Matthias

[CShubert]

Thank you @MaD for the excellent STR and images, we can confirm this and will pass on to the team for review.

[Jose Maria276725951ydu]

I have the same problem. Would be great to have this solved! 

[PECourtejoie]

hello, to confirm, is it on PS 24.1 and which version of Camera Raw, @Jose Maria276725951ydu  ?

[D. Saunders]

So what is the solution? I landed here because I searching online to solve the same problem. I did a bunch of intricate masks in Photoshop (hours of work) and then noticed, after cropping, that the masks don't adjust in position and / or size in relation to the crop. Is there a way that I can move the masks so I can use them somewhat and not have to create all the masks from scratch?! Please help.

[D. Saunders]

@CShubert, PLEASE See my post in this thread. Here's what's happening - - - In Photoshop on a Smart Object layer I use the Camera Raw filter and create various masks. Then I exit out of the Camera Raw Filter. If I crop the image, the masks created within the Camera Raw filter stay in the position of the uncropped image version instead of adapting to the cropping so then they're useless. It's very frustrating to have to create masks all over again on the cropped version of the image.

I don't want to crop an image at the outset... I explore cropping possibilities only at the end of of image editing. SO - Is there a way to have the Camera Raw masks on the Smart Object layer transition correctly to the cropped version of the image? Or to apply some sort of "resize" to the Camera Raw layer that correlates to the cropped version?? Please help...

[Raphael26781530v0cn]

End of 2023 and still a problem... Adobes way of fixing bugs is very long. The only sollution to this is to create an empty layer, select it with the camera raw filtered smart object and convert this into a smart object again. This way the camera raw filter is "hidden" into a nested smart object and we are finally able to crop again. Frustrating but it is a workaround. 

[default2acypugjzqq5]

As of 2024 this is still an issue. At the very least give us the ability to manually move mask around in camera raw.

[William Scalia]

Please update. Its almost been two years since this was first brought to your attention. 

[mrtheloe]

Still the same problem.

There is a Button Ai Maske update. But why is the 'AI Masked Update' button grayed out? It works in Lightroom.

[Jennifer32002517ui6k]

I have had this problem for years now and i haven't been able to work around.  Any ideas?????

[William Scalia]

A workaround:

1. Save your camera raw settings to your desktop, making sure that you have MASKS checked in the menu. 

2. Delete the original Camera Raw filter from your smart object. 

3. Add a new Camera Raw, open it, and load those saved settings back in. 

The masks should reconform to the new layout of the adjusted page dimensions. 

[Jennifer32002517ui6k]

That worked!  Thank you @William Scalia !!!

[William Scalia]

@Jennifer32002517ui6k 

Glad it worked out. Would still love an "Update Masks" Button, though, right? Adobe, are you listening??

[Jennifer32002517ui6k]

@William Scalia YES! I've been redoing my masks for years now.  Please Adobe!