P: Face Aware Liquify doesn't find faces in some cases

Report · Nov 08, 2016

With the new face detection, which is really great and fast tool to use, I have a lot of picture with the model reclining and the face is not detected automatically, is there a way to force the detection? In the end I rotated the picture 90 deg and worked on the face, with no problem.

Report · Oct 18, 2017

No. I'm on a MAC (see the little Apple in the upper left corner of the screen grab?)

Report · Oct 18, 2017

I can't find someone looking over the top of their glasses. I probably have one somewhere, but. . . What I can find that should be impossible is pretty impressive. 3/4 profiles, almost full, and no problem finding the face. Tilted down, no problem. Tilted down and sideways—works. Even a Marine, 3/4 profile, kevlar, sunglasses, only the mouth capable of being modified, not a complete jawline—no problem. How did it even see that a round object on top of an opaque dark strip (sunglasses), the tip of a nose, tip of an ear, chin cut off by the line of an MRAP, and only the mouth distinctly human? But it did know that was a face.

All in all, it's pretty impressive. I'll still voice a concern I have, though. Artificial Intelligence isn't the holy grail anymore. It's here and now, not just the future. Pretty exciting, really. We see results of it more and more with Adobe features being able to "see" the image, know a lot about it, and act upon it. However, we humans still need a transition period while AI is growing up. It concerns me that Adobe is trying perhaps a little too hard to develop it's Sensei AI, and not paying enough attention to developing alongside that the tools we still need now to control the AI features when they fail us and we humans have to once again take over.

I don't want them to stop developing the AI. But having the aid of AI doesn't mean I don't want to be able to manually brush on my masks in S&M using D&B or Blend modes to clean up, while we wait for the QS tool and Refine Edge brushes to be more perfect. Or that we don't want to adjust Santa Clause's eyes with the Liquify face tools instead of the manual method, simply putting in the path points ourselves, when the AI doesn't recognize a full frontal face because of the heavy fake Santa Clause beard hiding mouth, jaw, and chin. —Funny it can handle only seeing a nose and mouth but not only seeing a nose and eyes.

Anyway, that's why we're still asking for human control while the AI grows up. More along the lines of if it doesn't know, let me, the human, intervene without having to go back to using last century's methods. I know that's asking a lot, but Adobe is spoiling us with getting oh so close, but not quite there yet. More time spent making hybrid features would help a lot. Heck, to please us, more money spent hiring more programmers would also help. LOL

Report · Oct 18, 2017

Gordo,

Sorry - tunnel vision. I was looking at your version and mistook it for a win build. I tested face aware on your image on Win and Mac and both worked impressively well.

Can you share a screen shot of your system info from Photoshop? (Help > System Info). I'm wondering if you just need to log out of the Creative Cloud and log back in to get the new version.

Thanks,
Hannah

Report · Oct 18, 2017

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Report · Oct 18, 2017

2018 was released today. You need to update to see the improved Face Aware Liquify. I'd advise installing without letting the CC APP uninstall 2017 in case you find there's something in 2018 that doesn't work right and you have to go back to 2017 to carry out that task.

Report · Oct 18, 2017

Wow much improved, the face detection even works with a profile and hair covering half of the face! Well done.....

Report · Oct 18, 2017

I updated this afternoon doing what PShop told me to do. Are you saying that there’s a second update released today?

Report · Oct 18, 2017

It sure looks like you have 2017 installed with that report. If you had an update waiting, the CC app may have updated 2017. It wouldn't necessarily have the 2018 notification. It can take up to 24 hours if you do nothing. Try quitting and relaunching the Creative Cloud app, and seeing if the CC App shows that you have an update/install for PS.

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Report · Oct 20, 2017

I updated my MAC OS to 10.13
I installed PShop 2018
It still does not detect the face (see screen grab) I don't understand why it works on your PShop but not mine. 😞

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Report · Oct 20, 2017

How about if you select the person icon right above the hand? Does it work for you then?

Report · Oct 20, 2017

No difference other than a pop up notice appears (see screen grab)

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Report · Oct 20, 2017

Okay, so now I am going to suggest the standard: save any custom presets you've made and then delete your Preferences (Cmd-Opt-Shift-click to launch). I downloaded your file and can confirm what Heather saw. 2018 does recognize the face, so since we're on the same platform, this shouldn't be a Windows vs Mac thing. Deleting Preferences is typically the first step. I've enlarged his eyes and made him smile as much as the app allows.

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Report · Oct 20, 2017

Didn't work. 😞 Still doesn't detect a face.

Report · Oct 20, 2017

I'm sorry. I really don't know why it's turning out to be so complicated. Hopefully someone from Adobe will be working this weekend and see this and help you troubleshoot.

Report · Oct 21, 2017

I’ve posted the image on a photography forum to see if anyone else has the same problem with this image. Only one response so far. A person running Win10 - and his PShop doesn’t detect a face in this photo either.

Report · Feb 05, 2019

I installed the latest update for Photoshop CC 2019 yesterday, and now the face aware liquify tool doesn't recognize ANYTHING. Really getting tired of the updates making everything crash. Last update it was all liquify tools.

Report · Apr 21, 2021

@hannah_nicollet we're having issues with Photoshop Fix; not Photoshop.

Report · May 24, 2021

Photoshop Fix, at least mine, is being used on my phone as an app. iPhone 8 +. This problem with not being able to use Liquify. It doesn't detect a face on any photos anymore. It started a couple of months ago.

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