P: Nvidia users are dropping out of GPU mode when using type tool

[B B Photographer]

So yes i know i am using a very old graphics card the 770M but things were working just fine until a few days ago when this new patch hit. Still running windows 10 like before.

Now i can't find a way to get scrubby zoom to work again, its just greyed out. Anyone else having issues?

Graphics processor is ticked on and under advanced settings use openCL and anti alias guides and paths are turned on. I have restarted my computer. I have reinstalled my graphics driver. Anything i can think of

[title of post updated to reflect issue that the team is investigating]

[Linda25700368iqmr]

I just updated Photoshop to Adobe Photoshop Version: 23.5.0 20220809.r.669 0e07917 x64,  as well as updating my MacBook Pro to macOS Monterey Version 12.5.1

Now,  when I click on the text tool icon, and try to type, the whole Photoshop window turns black. I cannot see what I am typing, but I find that when I click off of the text, the image re-appears as normal, with the text that I typed. But, if I click inside the text line, with the text tool, and try to add a return, for example, the window goes all black again.

I tried resetting the tool presets, but nothing has changed. What the heck is going on??

{Thread title updated by moderator}

[Linda25700368iqmr]

I just updated Photoshop to Adobe Photoshop Version: 23.5.0 20220809.r.669 0e07917 x64,  as well as updating my MacBook Pro to macOS Monterey Version 12.5.1

Now,  after I click on the text tool icon, the moment I try to type, the whole Photoshop window turns black. I cannot see what I am typing, but I find that when I click off of the text, the image re-appears as normal, with the text that I typed. But, if I then click inside the text line, with the text tool, and try to add a return, for example, the window goes all black again.

 I tried resetting the tool presets, but nothing has changed. This is so frustrating! Please help.

Thanks,

Linda Parker

[Linda25700368iqmr]

By the way, I also tried quitting and re-starting Photoshop, as well as powering down my computer and re-starting. Nothing helps. 

[CoryShubert]

Hi @Linda25700368iqmr.

Let's make sure we're in a default state and there are no stale settings somewhere: 

Restore your preferences using this manual method:  

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/preferences.html#Manually  

Does it work correctly? 

If that doesn't solve it, you can quit Photoshop and put the Settings folder back. 

It may help if we could see your Photoshop System Info. Launch Photoshop, and select Help >System Info...and copy/paste the text in a reply.  

Thank you,

[Sameer K]

Hi there,

Thank you for reaching out with the details. I'd love to help you figure this out.

Could you please share the system info of Photoshop from Help > System info > Copy & paste into a text document > upload to Creative Cloud files (https://assets.adobe.com/files) and share with us?

Do you work on multi-monitors? Has this started since a recent update of Photoshop or the operating system?

Please share recordings of this behavior. You can use Quicktime Play > Go to File > New Screen recording.

Try this & let me know if it helps.

• Go to Photoshop > Preferences > Technology Previews > check & enable  'Deactive Native Canvas' & restart Photoshop.

Go to the location of the preference folder mentioned below and rename it to backup. 

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/preferences.html

• macOS: In the Finder, hold down the Option key when using the Go menu > Library > Go to Preferences/Adobe Photoshop [version] Settings
• Rename the Adobe Photoshop folder by adding a .old at the end. (Adobe Photoshop 2022 > Rename > Adobe Photoshop 2022. old)

This step will give a fresh start to Photoshop as a fresh install. 

Let me know how it goes,

Thanks!
Sameer K

[Sameer K]

Hi there,

Thank you for reaching out with the details. I'd love to help you figure this out.

Could you please share the system info of Photoshop from Help > System info > Copy & paste into a text document > upload to Creative Cloud files (https://assets.adobe.com/files) and share with us?

Do you work on multi-monitors? Has this started since a recent update of Photoshop or the operating system?

Please share recordings of this behavior. You can use Quicktime Play > Go to File > New Screen recording.

Try this & let me know if it helps.

• Go to Photoshop > Preferences > Technology Previews > check & enable  'Deactive Native Canvas' & restart Photoshop.

Go to the location of the preference folder mentioned below and rename it to backup. 

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/preferences.html

• macOS: In the Finder, hold down the Option key when using the Go menu > Library > Go to Preferences/Adobe Photoshop [version] Settings
• Rename the Adobe Photoshop folder by adding a .old at the end. (Adobe Photoshop 2022 > Rename > Adobe Photoshop 2022. old)

This step will give a fresh start to Photoshop as a fresh install. 

Let me know how it goes,

Thanks!
Sameer K

[Linda25700368iqmr]

Hi Cory,

That did the trick. Please note I did include my Photoshop Version and my Operating System info in my original message. 

Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it!

Linda

[TheDigitalDog]

Do try disabling GPU in Preferences and see if they reappear. Just because it worked in a previous version, the updated version may still be affected. If turning OFF GPU works, it's a GPU bug and you need to contact the manufacturer or find out if there's an updated driver for it. This is why disabling GPU is an option as more and more functionality moves to the GPU in newer versions of many Adobe products.
Also see: https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/acr-gpu-faq.html

If you wish to roll back to an older version, use the Creative Cloud application, click on the three dots (...) and select “Other Versions”.

[Seth A]

Just updated Photoshop on 23.5 and having some issues with scrubby zoom. While seems to work in the beginning while i work on a file, suddenly stops working and its grayed out.

Is this a bug? 

thanks

Seth

[CoryShubert]

Hi @Seth A sorry to hear this.

Let's make sure we're in a default state and there are no stale settings somewhere: 

Restore your preferences using this manual method:  

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/preferences.html#Manually  

Does it work correctly? 

If that doesn't solve it, you can quit Photoshop and put the Settings folder back. 

It may help if we could see your Photoshop System Info. Launch Photoshop, and select Help >System Info...and copy/paste the text in a reply.  

Thank you,

[Andrei25760101bsc4]

I have the same problem: scubby zoom greyed out after PS was updated to 23.5.0 version.  I tried all solutions for older versions - no success.  My graphics processor is compatible:

Any ideas?  Many thanks in advance.

[Yarline5C46]

I'm having the same issue after Ps was updated to the 23.5.0 version, I checked the compatibility with my graphic processor and its okay.

If someone know how to fix it, I will be forever thankful!

[TheDigitalDog]

Checking compatibility isn't the same as disabling the GPU and letting us know if this fixes the issue or not; does it?

[Jqqerry]

@B B Photographer  Hey, did you see this? In an article posted a few days ago, Adobe's employee replied:

"We have noticed an issue with Ps and Nvidia cards and are working with them to solve this which is why you are seeing Ps not using your GPU."

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-bugs/photoshop-23-5-not-using-gpu/idi-p/13146576

This isn't the solution, but it seems to be the cause

[Bojan Živković]

It seems there is problem with Nvidia graphic cards and they are working to fix it. Personally I do not see any problem with scrubby zoom nor when using Type tool (Nvidia 2060) but some users do have problem which are already reported.

[Alex_R84]

After upgrading to 23.5 on my Windows 10 PC, every few hours the 'animated zoom' function crashes requiring stepped zooming. Only resolves after a reset.

Also, whatever position the canvas was in overscroll becomes stuck.

[Stoyanov]

Similar here - updated to 23.5 on WIN10. scrubby zoom not working at all with a draft look on the middle zoom percentages. Tried all possible - including updating to the latest NVIDIA drivers, switching on/off hardware acceleration, reset all PS preferences, bit nothing. Older versions of PS installed on the same PC work fine with scrubby zoom with same settings in Performance Preferences. Moved back to 23.4.2 for the moment.

[Stoyanov]

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VulcanMessage5.dll Vulcan Message Library 6.6.0.000
WinRTSupport.dll Adobe Photoshop Windows RT Support 1.0.1.0
WRServices.dll WRServices Build 17.4.0.997eb32 17.4.0.997eb32
wu3d.dll U3D Writer 9.3.0.113
Unified Extensibility Platform uxp-6.1.1-uxpr
UPIC 2.4.1

Required plugins:

Accented Edges 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Adaptive Wide Angle 23.4 - from the file “Adaptive Wide Angle.8bf”
Angled Strokes 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Average 23.4 - from the file “Average.8bf”
Bas Relief 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
BMP 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Camera Raw 14.5 - from the file “Camera Raw.8bi”
Camera Raw Filter 14.5 - from the file “Camera Raw.8bi”
Chalk && Charcoal 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Charcoal 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Chrome 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Cineon 23.4 - from the file “Cineon.8bi”
Clouds 23.4 - from the file “Clouds.8bf”
Color Halftone 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Colored Pencil 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Conté Crayon 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Craquelure 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Crop and Straighten Photos 23.4 - from the file “CropPhotosAuto.8li”
Crop and Straighten Photos Filter 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Crosshatch 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Crystallize 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Cutout 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Dark Strokes 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
De-Interlace 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Dicom 23.4 - from the file “Dicom.8bi”
Difference Clouds 23.4 - from the file “Clouds.8bf”
Diffuse Glow 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Displace 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Dry Brush 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Entropy 23.4 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Export Color Lookup Tables 23.4 - from the file “Export3DLUT.8be”
Extrude 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
FastCore Routines 23.4 - from the file “FastCore.8bx”
Fibers 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Film Grain 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Filter Gallery 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Fresco 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Glass 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Glowing Edges 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Grain 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Graphic Pen 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Halftone Pattern 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Halide Bottlenecks 23.4 - from the file “HalideBottlenecks.8bx”
HDRMergeUI 23.4 - from the file “HDRMergeUI.8bf”
HSB/HSL 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
IFF Format 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
IGES 23.4 - from the file “U3D.8bi”
Ink Outlines 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
JPEG 2000 23.4 - from the file “JPEG2000.8bi”
Kurtosis 23.4 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Lens Blur 23.4 - from the file “Lens Blur.8bf”
Lens Correction 23.4 - from the file “Lens Correction.8bf”
Lens Flare 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Liquify 23.4 - from the file “Liquify.8bf”
Matlab Operation 23.4 - from the file “ChannelPort.8bf”
Maximum 23.4 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Mean 23.4 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Measurement Core 23.4 - from the file “MeasurementCore.8me”
Median 23.4 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Mezzotint 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Minimum 23.4 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
MMXCore Routines 23.4 - from the file “MMXCore.8bx”
Mosaic Tiles 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Multiprocessor Support 23.4 - from the file “MultiProcessor Support.8bx”
Neon Glow 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Note Paper 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
NTSC Colors 23.4 - from the file “NTSC Colors.8bf”
Ocean Ripple 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
OpenEXR 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Paint Daubs 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Palette Knife 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Patchwork 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Paths to Illustrator 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
PCX 23.4 - from the file “PCX.8bi”
Photocopy 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Picture Package Filter 23.4 - from the file “ChannelPort.8bf”
Pinch 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Pixar 23.4 - from the file “Pixar.8bi”
Plaster 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Plastic Wrap 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Pointillize 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Polar Coordinates 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Portable Bit Map 23.4 - from the file “PBM.8bi”
Poster Edges 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
PRC 23.4 - from the file “U3D.8bi”
Radial Blur 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Radiance 23.4 - from the file “Radiance.8bi”
Range 23.4 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Render Color Lookup Grid 23.4 - from the file “Export3DLUT.8be”
Reticulation 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Ripple 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Rough Pastels 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Save for Web 23.4 - from the file “Save for Web.8be”
ScriptingSupport 23.4 - from the file “ScriptingSupport.8li”
Shear 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Skewness 23.4 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Smart Blur 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Smudge Stick 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Solarize 23.4 - from the file “Solarize.8bf”
SP Substance Suite NO VERSION - from the file “MaterialSuite.8li”
Spatter 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Spherize 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Sponge 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Sprayed Strokes 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Stained Glass 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Stamp 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Standard Deviation 23.4 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Substance Filter NO VERSION - from the file “MaterialFilter.8bf”
Sumi-e 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Summation 23.4 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Targa 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Texturizer 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Tiles 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Torn Edges 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Twirl 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
U3D 23.4 - from the file “U3D.8bi”
Underpainting 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Vanishing Point 23.4 - from the file “VanishingPoint.8bf”
Variance 23.4 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Water Paper 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Watercolor 23.4 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Wave 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
WIA Support 23.4 - from the file “WIASupport.8li”
Wind 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Wireless Bitmap 23.4 - from the file “WBMP.8bi”
ZigZag 23.4 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”

Optional and third party plugins: NONE

Duplicate and Disabled plugins: NONE

Plugins that failed to load: NONE

Unified Extensibility Platform - Extensions:

Home Screen (Loaded) 5.12.1.4 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/UXP/Extensions\com.adobe.ccx.start-5.12.1\"
CDO: 1.125.1
CmdN: 1.13.2
CDP: 1.149.0
Projects: 1.4.5
Loaded at: 159 ms - launch time impact: 21 ms
Content Credentials (Loaded) 0.30.6.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 17524 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
ccx-timeline (Prepared) 2.6.41.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
CCX Commenting UXP Webview (Loaded) 23.5.1.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 17525 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
CCX Sharesheet UXP (Prepared) 23.6.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Share Panel (Loaded) 1.0.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 160 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
CC Libraries Panel (Prepared) 3.19.238.0 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/CEP/Extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_19_238\"
CAPTURE: 2.0.34 STOCK: 4.0.2
Photoshop UXP Export-As (Prepared) 5.8.11.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Photoshop In App Messaging (Loaded) 2.7.5.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 17525 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Photoshop Selection Feedback (Prepared) 0.5.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Plugins Panel (Prepared) 1.4.3.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
IC popup message (Loaded) 1.0.0.0
Loaded at: 16851 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Multilayer Protection (Loaded) 1.0.0.0
Loaded at: 16851 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Discover Panel (Loaded) 2.7.0.20 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 17526 ms - launch time impact: 6 ms
Photoshop Cloud Value Dialog (Loaded) 1.0.1.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 17571 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Neural Filters (Registered) 1.12.2.0 - from the file "Required Folder"

Extensions:

GrutBrushes 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Users\Vlado\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CEP\extensions\com.GrutBrushes.SelectorPanel\index.html”
Libraries 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_19_238\index.html”
Game Map Generator 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Users\Vlado\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CEP\extensions\game_map_generator.extension\index.html”
com.GrutBrushes.WebPanel.extension 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Users\Vlado\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CEP\extensions\com.GrutBrushes.WebPanel\index.html”
Export As 4.8.15 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html”
3D Map Generator 2 - v1.5 1.5.0 - from the file “C:\Users\Vlado\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CEP\extensions\3D-Map-Generator-2_v1_5_2\index.html”
com.adobe.capture.extension 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_19_238\extensions\capture\capture.html”
com.adobe.stock.panel.licensing-embedded 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_19_238\extensions\stock-panel-licensing\index.html”
Image Extend 1.0.1 - from the file “C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\image-extend\index.html”
Layer Batch 1.0.1 - from the file “C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\layer-batch\index.html”
Asana 2.0.1 - from the file “C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\plus.asana.acc\index.html”
3D Map Generator - Terrain 1.2.0 - from the file “C:\Users\Vlado\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CEP\extensions\3D_MAP_GENERATOR_TERRAIN_1_3.extension\index.html”
Export As 4.8.15 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html”
com.adobe.cclibraries.manager 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_19_238\manager.html”

Installed TWAIN devices: NONE

[FrmMe2You]

Hii guys 

I was wondering if anyone can help me with this because I'm at my wit's end and I've never encountered this problem before. My Photoshop scrubby zoom will be checked on, on startup and then  after a second or so when I come back to check it it will be off and grayed out, I just have no idea what could be causing this or how to fix it, I've always used scrubby zoom and its something i really like to use so id love to get it back working 

my graphics processor is: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 

laptop: Dell XPS 9550  

OS: Windows 10 

what I've done 

• updated my drivers as some graphics drivers were out of date, but still nothing 
• reset all my preferences 
• uninstalled and then reinstalled photoshop 
• checked use Graphics Processor 

[FrmMe2You]

[Andrei25760101bsc4]

No, it does not solve the problem.

[CoryShubert]

Hi @FrmMe2You sorry to hear this.

Let's make sure we're in a default state and there are no stale settings somewhere: 

Restore your preferences using this manual method:  

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/preferences.html#Manually  

Does it work correctly? 

If that doesn't solve it, you can quit Photoshop and put the Settings folder back. 

It may help if we could see your Photoshop System Info. Launch Photoshop, and select Help >System Info...and copy/paste the text in a reply.  

Thank you,

[Blackie74]

I just updated to V 23.5 and am finding the scrubby zoom stops working (box greys out) when I have text in a file and select the text to edit. The screen flashes quickly and scrubby zoom ability goes away. I can close and reopen the file without restarting PS and scrubby zoom comes back. Then once I select the text the same thing happens. This has never been an issue with previous versions. I'm regretting updating as scrubby zoom is the only way to fly. Anyone have a fix?

[Mark.Dahm]

@Blackie74 , what you were doing before it stopped working is a great clue; we'll start looking into this. It would be really helpful if you could share your System Info (from the Photoshop > Help menu) with us.

The symptoms, based on these notes, appears to be that a layer of code that Photoshop uses to talk to the GPU is initially showing healthy on startup of Photoshop (the GPU compatibility window shows this), but then in the middle of the Photsohop session, it fails.

This is common for older cards, since drivers stop getting actively updated, and operating systems move on with their own standards, leaping ahead of what the cards can do. Photoshop depends on a common GPU interface that is in the process of being deprecated, and all of that is mediated through drivers and the operating system.

But clearly Photoshop could do better to inform you of when the GPU interface goes down (noticed by some folks here when scrubby zooming dies out on Windows).

For others running into this issue, we're not seeing the problem, so without the combination of cards, drivers and operating systems we're at a disadvantage. The most helpful thing you can do would be to always send us a crash report, and if you include a comment about what card you have and what you were doing, that would be a great help. We sometimes (not always) reach out to customers that include their email address in the crash report for follow up, so don't be shy about including that. If we get enough of these, we might be able to draw some inferences as to what could be failing.

And again, for those noticing the issue, does the issue reproduce consistently as you're doing something specific? Does PS 23.4x still work for you, or is that also unstable? If it's working, then we can narrow down the focus to the changes just put in for 23.5.

Thanks for your patience while we track this down.

[Mark.Dahm]

So far, those that shared their GPU details were for older GPU cards (2014/2015); that's helpful. We will look to see if we can test on one of the stated cards to see what's up. There is a decent chance that those old cards are too unstable to be used with Photoshop (because both operating systems and Photoshop have to keep modernizing use of the GPU for better performance and features), and the 'solution' would be to shut the GPU features down on Photoshop while using one of those cards. But we'll see if we can rescusitate first.

Another thing to try is to install drivers directly from nVidia rather than allow Windows to install the latest driver.

[Mark.Dahm]

Upon further investigation, checking 'Deactivate Native Canvas' in the Technology Previews section of Preferences can introduce this behavior. If you leave that preference (in Technology Previews) unchecked, you should be fine.

Note that the Deactivate Native Canvas feature was added earlier this summer as a way to revert back to an older canvas technology, a necessary baby-step as we ramped up porting the canvas to native DirectX and Metal APIs. Those newer APIs, as it turns out, didn't work with our legacy 3D features. so many customers relied on this mechanism to continue to work with our 3D features.

If you depended on using 3D features or otherwise had to 'deactivate the native canvas' to fix other issues, be advised that 22.4 will be your better option until we can correct this issue. We are working on a fix to restore this state so that you will have the option back.