P: Photoshop 22.0: Where is Line Weight/Width and Pixels options?

[mrbobdobolina]

I'm having trouble using the Line Tool in PS 22.0.0. 

How do I set the width/weight of the line? In PS 21 there was a "Weight" option along the top bar, but I don't see that anymore. Am I missing it? Or did it move? 

This might be a separate issue, but the lines I'm drawing are not showing up. I have a fill color and stroke color selected, but when I make a line, I don't see it. I just see a blue outline of where it is... the same that might happen if I made a "path" instead of a "shape." 

I just need to make a line with a width/weight of 20px.

[mrbobdobolina]

@arconz I laughed out loud at that. 

"We've talked it over and... ... ..."
"Yes? And?"

"We've talked it over and we've decided... ...that you are our users."

[JemShaw]

@DGrainger, it may be non-productive, but it's all we have to try to keep this fix alive. The lack of a timely response by Adobe strongly suggests a lack of will to to fix this idiocy. If we get tired and go away, this arrogant monolith can continue on its self-obsessed road to ruin. Sadly, we're the captives of CC. If we turn to an alternative pixel editor, does that impact their earnings? The majority of us fork out every month because we need the suite of programs, not just Photoshop.

In a more perfect world we could declare a graphic artists' strike and withdraw our subscriptions, but few of us could do that and remain solvent. No, we're stuck with having to suck up Adobe's bullying insouciance. Whatever our views, they'll continue to kill Director, maim DreamWeaver and chase blind alleys like Muse. Eventually they'll ruin enough of their products that we'll be forced to look elsewhere.

In the meantime, surely you can allow us at least to bitch about it.

[jeremyMakesPictures]

Ok ADOBE,

It's obvious that you have a major problem here.

Your Complaints and Feedback system is obviously not fit for purpose. You are driving a large number of your users up the wall with this issue and nobody feels you care, are doing anything about it, understand your user base or can see how much this issue is upsetting people.

Users have now gotten to the point where they have decided that other software is the answer. I suggest that you get somebody knowledgeable to explain to us (THE PEOPLE THAT PAY YOUR WAGES) what is going on, the complexities involved and when we can expect to see this tool re-appear. 

And perhaps you could review your approach to improving the software as a lot of professionals believe you are going in the wrong direction.

There, I've laid it out for you.

If nobody replies to this then we can assume that you are not capable or whiling of fixing this issue and you have absolutely no regard for your customers.

[Lupo Ceco]

It seems we both have used PS for a good slice of our life!! 

I'll definitely try to do what you say with Affinity and see if their suit can do the same job as with PS+AI+ID.

I totally agree that during the last years the instability, the screen updating issues etc have become unacceptable. 

I'm afraid that Adobe is following the same dev model other internet companies have: experimentation. They change something and then use statistics to evaluate the impact. If people say a button must be pink instead of black.....it will be pink. This implies that if users impacted by the line tool change is a minor or irrelevant part of the customers.....the line tool will never come back. Hope I'm wrong. Read the book "Experimentation works" to get an idea of the model. In the end we will get only products that the majority of people wants, even if it makes no sense. 

[phillippark]

New Update today.

Much Excitement.

Open PS.

See Pixels still greyed out on Line Tool.

Angrily throw PC out window.

[dgrainger]

Thousands of millennia of wolves have howled at the moon.

Thousands more, moon has continued to rise every night.

Disregard?

Wolves are very frustrated.

Moonlight bathes all other animals.

[JemShaw]

So we move on to misinformed anthropomorphism?

750 millennia wolves have howled at night

Thousands more, moon has continued to rise most nights

Unrelated?

Wolves are well-fed

Wolves howl to communicate

Photoshop users, on the other hand, get pissed off with being ignored by the people whose wages they pay. Fortunately, @dgrainger provides us some small entertainment with his incomprehensible obsession with peppering this forum with his objections to our freedom of speech.

Mr Grainger, as you clearly dislike this forum, I'm often been tempted to suggest you leave it alone and do something you enjoy. Now my opinion has changed. Please stay; we look forward to your daily trolling.

The wolf metaphor was hilarious. For your next gem of wisdom, can I suggest you try misquoting Shakespeare?

[dgrainger]

@JemShaw: Actually, I wasn't quoting anybody, but am curious: your response seems to indicate that there is a literary passage about which I am unaware. I would appreciate it if you could steer me to it.

My point, that I was trying to make, was that things are what that are, and will resolve in time; banging on pots and pans at the factory gate does not impact the speed at which that resolution will occur, but it starts to really annoy the rest of the city.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

While I detest it as well, as seen in business and life, far to often (in my best Shakespearean voice) "the squeaky wheel gets the greaseth".

[JemShaw]

@dgrainger, not wishing to digress from the important business of bitching, the reference wasn't literary but factual: wolves don't, nor have they ever, howled at the moon. Your post was nonetheless appreciated for its usual comedic value.

Digression over. On with the motley, and the paint, and the powder!

[dgrainger]

Poetic canis lupus license. . . Go forth and be creative despite the obstacles! Stay safe!

[moldred]

@mark_dahm 

Please hurry up. I edit comics and drawings and frequently need to just fill or extend a line. The pixel version is quick and simple and I get on with my work. 

For the umpteenth time 

WHAT GOOD IS A LINE TOOL THAT CANT SIMPLY DRAW LINES??

[moldred]

@mark_dahm 

You posted this THREE MONTHS AGO!!!
WHAT ARE YOU DOING? 
WE NEED THE LINE TOOL BACK ASAP

[KazVorpal]

They might not be able to change things, but they could at least update us and participate with the discussion more often. Again, the rare updates and lack of discussion make us feel unheard.

[KazVorpal]

@DGrainger 

> Google was correctly concerned about being enablers to copywrite theft.

That would be the very kind of bureaucratic idiocy I'm talking about.

Anyone who wants to can still "steal" copyrighted information, they just have to manually download it first. The only change is that it's immensely inconvenient for those of us who make our living with graphics, who are constantly emailed images to work on, which we could more readily copy and paste than download.

Idiocy. Lawyerly nonsense.

Your other quote: "And when they are, they should have it slapped out of them by strongly worded criticism."

So, you advocate violence when other people's views and interests are not aligned with yours?

Are you deranged? Is your reading comprehension so low that you can't understand how "strongly worded criticism" is not advocacy of violence? What the hell is wrong with you? Your own quote refutes your absurd interpretation.

[JemShaw]

I am well rebuked 😄

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I would like to add my name to the list of people that are unhappy with this change.  It has hurt my work significantly.  Please restore this tool to its original functionality.  

[phillippark]

Another Update for Photoshop.

Version 22.2.

Thinking "Maybe the fixed the Line Tool".

Start feeling excited.

Update Photoshop.

Open Photoshop.

Line Tool set to Pixels still greyed out.

Stare blankly at screen.

Uninstall Photoshop and cancel Creative Cloud Subscription.

Download Clip Studio Paint.

Much Happiness.

Create amazing art.

Best Day Ever.

[Dprog]

😄






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[Mark C. Dahm]

@Phillip Park , I know, it's disappointing we couldn't wrap up the line tool adjustments; just too many loose ends to ship in the condition it was in. 

We have been working on this feature, it was ever so close to making it this time. The remaining to-do list is short now.

[Mark C. Dahm]

@Jeremy Plant , I hear you, I know the October release seems like forever when this line tool went MIA. We were ever so close to having it wrapped up for the 22.2 release, but rather than hold the release and the fixes that were ready, we kept the schedule. The line tool is on its way back, and there is no other work taking precedence.

We are reviewing the processes that will improve our responsiveness. 

[Mark C. Dahm]

@JemShaw , we are actively working on restoring the line tool pixel option; the list of remaining work is short now. We do not take your patience for granted, and are working to close this gap as soon as we can. I also anxiously await the day when I can announce this update has landed.

[JemShaw]

Thank you @mark_dahm, I hope it's been clear throughout our gripes, moans and tantrums that your responses have been valued and appreciated. Our dissatisfaction with Adobe was inevitable, but most definitely not personal.

Thank you once again for taking the time to reply. I hope your input is as valued at Adobe as it is here.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Mark_dahm, thank you for the update. It's reassuring to know someone is working on the problem and that we might get relief in the next release. 

[jeremyMakesPictures]

I appreciate the response Mark but I have to say my faith has been somewhat shattered by this episode. I truly hope things resolve quickly and lessons are learnt.