P: Photoshop 22.0: Where is Line Weight/Width and Pixels options?

[mrbobdobolina]

I'm having trouble using the Line Tool in PS 22.0.0. 

How do I set the width/weight of the line? In PS 21 there was a "Weight" option along the top bar, but I don't see that anymore. Am I missing it? Or did it move? 

This might be a separate issue, but the lines I'm drawing are not showing up. I have a fill color and stroke color selected, but when I make a line, I don't see it. I just see a blue outline of where it is... the same that might happen if I made a "path" instead of a "shape." 

I just need to make a line with a width/weight of 20px.

[Lupo Ceco]

@ciellchan ...it really helps. I'm not an artist like you. I mostly use for technical documentation, brochures and software GUI. 

But since I'm passionate about photo editing etc, I think I'll try CSP too.

Thanks!

[dgrainger]

For all of the folks complaining here, I suggest that you take a look at an archived session of a webcast show called the Grid, episode  415:

https://members.kelbyone.com/webcast/the-grid-taking-on-the-adobe-haters-with-scott-kelby-and-erik-k...

[Dprog]

How about giving a summary to save us the time and effort of signing up for an account on something to get to your point?

[Ciellchan]

Why are you always commenting things like this? Most of us had to rely on alternatives or old PS version since this get fixed. We did not chose nor wanted to do it, we had no choice.

Cant you be more empathic with people whose workflow suffer a toll and are very expectating of a new release with this tool? 

[Ciellchan]

You are very welcome! 🙂

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Wow man, read the room.

[dgrainger]

@RF23  There is a free trial access to that site; there is a lot of information in that video that would be useful to see.

@cielchan Huh? What's your point? Do you object to learning something?

[Dprog]

Sure, but I really don't have the time to sign up to watch something to see the point you're trying to make.

Can't you simply say it?

[dgrainger]

It would take me a lot more time to do an essay / summary than it would for you to just go watch the the video. It is done by Scott Kelby, founder of NAPP now known as KelbyONE, who has been very important in educational materials about Adobe products, has more than 500 courses done by well known experts. I offered that lead to you and others, and do not expect to have to spoon feed it! I find their Grid web casts and all of their courses have taught me a lot.

[dgrainger]

I agree, his humor is juvenile, but the points made later in are worth watching. Thirty seconds is less time than one gives to a Budweiser TV ad!!!

PS: thanks for finding a quicker access point for the link!

[lukeb34835997]

@DGrainger   No one in this thread affected by this issue cares that you don't need the line tool and that this update hasn't ruined your workflow. 

However, entire professional studios like ours rely heavily on this simple pixel line tool to do complex illustrations, inking, concepts and so on.  As a environment designer of 8 years for film/animation myself and my colleagues need this tool as it is, so this change was unacceptable.  Maybe you just need to leave this thread if it bothers you so many of us are upset with this change?  I'm curious why you are so defensive of Adobe here.  They goofed up hard.  We are holding them to it until we get a solution.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I signed up for it and wasted my morning on the video. All I got was a lot of namedropping and people shouldn't hate on adobe because they're people too. Which is entirely missing the point of the fact that adobe decided to remove an oft used tool that was critical to a workflow that helped put food on the table for my kids.  

[larryc98938179]

@DGrainger  You don't get it. Go shoot some bird photos and we'll circle around ang get back to you when we think your comments are useful, mmmmkay?

[albert geertjes]

You are right! I feel disabled since I lost that line tool. Working around it all the time. I paid for a version with, and now, without a warning I have to do without...

[KazVorpal]

I skip Budweiser TV ads. That's the benefit of modern TV technologies.

There is no excuse for the sheer arrogance of actively taking away features that is so common in corporate development today. If the guys at Adobe are people too, they should learn to act like it. Same with the idiots at Google who actively chose to disable the ability to right click and copy an image in gmail. They think they know better than we do, about when to use a pixel line, when to copy an image without concern for lost resolution, et cetera.

Arrogance.

"People" shouldn't be arrogant.

And when they are, they should have it slapped out of them by strongly worded criticism.

[dgrainger]

@Kaz Vorpal " Same with the idiots at Google who actively chose to disable the ability to right click and copy an image in gmail."  Google was correctly concerned about being enablers to copywrite theft.

Your other quote: "And when they are, they should have it slapped out of them by strongly worded criticism."

So, you advocate violence when other people's views and interests are not aligned with yours?

[Ciellchan]

I believe you fail to see we pay for a tool, it’s not about point of views is about signed contracts. It’s about fulfilling said contracts. The conversation on this thread is not an exchange of opinion between mutuals, it’s a conversation between customer and client. 

People are not hating on Adobe, we are all still choosing them despite this issue, we are just worried and concerned about the time it’s taken them to resolve this issue.

And to be honest, this is possibly an UX problem, the research and testing were probably done with a non representative customer base,  it can happen. Yet a good communication from Adobe about this matter would be very much appreciated. The devs are doing their best but they can’t be a shield. 

[KazVorpal]

>  we are all still choosing them despite this issue

Speak for yourself. I've used PS for 29 years, but what it boils down to right now is that, in order to retain me, they need to fix things before I'm sufficiently used to one or more of the alternatives. Intentionally broken nonsense like the line tool, along with overall program instability introduced in the last few years, is pushing me out the door, whether I like it or not.

Each project, I use Photoshop until it gets laggy from memory leaks, crashes from some bug, stops updating the screen properly, or I run into a voluntarily created problem like the line tool. Then I switch to something else — often because I would've had to restart PS anyway — and use that until my unfamiliarity drives me back to PS to get some task(s) done more easily. But each time, I know the other tool a little better, and stick with it a little longer.

Eventually I'll almost accidentally just stay in Affinity, or CLIP, or GIMP...I have four different ones and I'm still rotating between them, trying to decide which combination does everything I need. It'll become normal for me to use them.

All the other guys saying they've had to add Affinity or whatever to their workflow for the line tool or some other reason:

Even if they're not planning on it, they're also getting used to that alternative. Every day Adobe leaves these problems simmering, they're building up a long-term precedent that could seriously damage their company.

[dgrainger]

@Ciellchan:  I guess I'm seen as selling Buddhism to a Bishop...   Yes, I agree that there is a problem, one which Adobe is scrambling to repair, one that is not as easy as some here have posited. But, I see all of the emotional kvetching as being negativism and non- productive.

[j. aaronk67378513]

Being non productive is the very thing we're complaining about.

[KazVorpal]

@DGrainger MLK Jr said that riots are the language of the unheard.

That includes our verbal riots, because Adobe is not communicating with us sufficiently. I'm on threads addressing the line tool on a message board based on the adobe domain name, and one with the photoshop domain name. Both, as I understand it, are run by "volunteers", not staff, but both are sometimes read by Adobe people, and either way they should feel responsible for sites based on their domains, and be interacting with us about these things. 

And yet they're not. We get rare thirdhand mention that someone's working on it, but little better than that.

Hire a minimum wager with social media skills to read these boards, go talk to the developers and the bureaucrats probably meddling with them, and come back to give us an idea of what's going on with regularity. 

It's better than losing us to competitors. Hey, Corel has a raster graphics program like PS too, right? That's one I keep forgetting to try. I mean, Corel Draw used to be pretty decent, though it's been a couple of decades since I messed with it.

[Ciellchan]

I get you, but Adobe needs to acknowledge this issue further, it’s not enough with having a stressed Dev replying every 10 days. This thread has months of people asking and discussing solutions. We need an ETA for this release more than anything. 

[dgrainger]

@Kaz Vorpal 

Actually, this forum is run by Adobe and there are several Adobe staff that both monitor and respond to issues.  What the fora foragers don't understand is that the Adobe people on this place are not decision makers at the levels that could snap a finger and command grant of everyone's wishes. They work very hard as advocates, but they are only part of a very large organization.

[mrbobdobolina]

I agree. Adobe needs to a better communication policy. 

To be fair, they responded, relatively quickly, to the feedback here and I know for a fact some of the users on this site have tested a beta version of PS where the tool works as it should...

We were told in December that a fix was coming, but wouldn't be ready in time for the December update... and now we've heard nothing for a month an a half. 

There has to be a better way for them to keep us updated on the status of these things.

[cgidude]

Over 3 weeks since the fix was "to be released soon". I guess that means any day now, right Mark?

I mean its great that the Ents found employment there after defeating Saruman, but...