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P: Slow performance when moving lots of layers

Explorer ,
Mar 23, 2012 Mar 23, 2012

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Hi there,

Photoshop CS6 Beta is soo slow in comparison to Photoshop CS5 when moving lots of vector layers. Check the video below:

CS6 - http://screencast.com/t/wBOzhTySdSf
CS5 - http://screencast.com/t/ab7BDbgNxUYe

- GPU Settings Enabled in both
- GeForce GTX 560, latest drivers
- i7 3,4 GHz, 16GB RAM

Why CS6 is so slow in this situation?

EDIT: I found the Problem comes form the Layer Pallet. Take a look how changing the tabs form Layers to Channels affect the moving performance : http://screencast.com/t/Gi01o1GzFPzJ

This have to be fixed, as in more complex files this will be huge problem..

Regards,
SK

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LEGEND , Sep 16, 2012 Sep 16, 2012
This layer movement slowdown was fixed in the Photoshop 13.0.1 update.

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Contributor ,
Mar 27, 2012 Mar 27, 2012

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i found this to be true when just moving a bunch of pictures too

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Adobe Employee ,
Mar 27, 2012 Mar 27, 2012

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Thanks for the feedback. The team is investigating this.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 09, 2012 Apr 09, 2012

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Also wanted to second this issue.

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May 27, 2012 May 27, 2012

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LEGEND ,
May 27, 2012 May 27, 2012

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This is a more restricted issue: just moving a bunch of layers, caused by slowdown in drawing the thumbnails in the layers palette. You can work around that by setting the thumbnail size to "none" in the layers palette options. We're still working on a proper fix.

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May 27, 2012 May 27, 2012

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thanks! yes i know that, it was already mentioned above. i just found this other topic and wanted to link them.

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Explorer ,
May 31, 2012 May 31, 2012

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I'm also experiencing this exact issue. It's causing major slowdown in my workflow — though this Channels trick will help me get through the pain, at least — thanks, SK!



Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro8,2
Processor Name: Intel Core i7
Processor Speed: 2.3 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 8 MB
Memory: 16 GB
Two internal SSD drives installed (one replacing DVD drive).
Chipset Model: AMD Radeon HD 6750M
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x8
VRAM (Total): 1024 MB

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Jun 07, 2012 Jun 07, 2012

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Just found this topic....I'm having this issue as well on the release version of Photoshop CS6. I'm assuming this wasn't fixed before it was released?

I'd like to add that everything feels sluggish with the layers panel open. Even scrolling in a doc with a lot of layers is faster when you switch to the Channels palette or turn thumbnails off.

-Kevin

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LEGEND ,
Jun 19, 2012 Jun 19, 2012

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Having same issue. did a search today because of this. please fix

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LEGEND ,
Jun 20, 2012 Jun 20, 2012

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I'm having the same issue. Clicking Channels everything was back to normal... BUG for sure

Also this might be helpful, it was to me
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4381173

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Plug-ins that failed to load: NONE
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LEGEND ,
Jul 04, 2012 Jul 04, 2012

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I'm on :

Processor 3.2 GHz Intel Core i3
Memory 8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Graphics ATI Radeon HD 5670 512 MB

I'm seriously thinking of asking for a refond on PS 6.0. Many added features are awesome, but when it comes to the detriment of speed, for me their just not worth it. Moving layers around is not just slow, it's impossible. Getting the nudge loading bar every time, it's impossible to work in those conditions. Oh yeah, it's not only for vector shapes.

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New Here ,
Sep 16, 2012 Sep 16, 2012

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You do not need to switch to Channel Panel or Change to NONE on Options.

Just simply use TAB to hide all panels while your moving the objects :D

Enjoy.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 16, 2012 Sep 16, 2012

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This layer movement slowdown was fixed in the Photoshop 13.0.1 update.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 17, 2012 Sep 17, 2012

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Awesome! I noticed the performance enhancements after the update. Thanks Adobe for this!!!!!

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Sep 17, 2012 Sep 17, 2012

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Great job guys! Thanks for the update 😄

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Explorer ,
Sep 17, 2012 Sep 17, 2012

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The update fixed the problem when dragging, but unfortunately I'm now having the problem when tapping the arrow keys to move items little by little.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 17, 2012 Sep 17, 2012

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Nudging requires a different fix - we can delay redrawing the layers palette until you're done dragging. But every nudge is a complete action, and we have to schedule the layers palette to redraw. For nudging, you probably want to turn off layer thumbnails, or set layer thumbnails to show the full document bounds.

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Explorer ,
Sep 20, 2012 Sep 20, 2012

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Hi Chris,

Pretty bad stuff with the nudging. I turned off layer thumbnails as you suggested and now nudging is perfect, but this is not a good fix as I want my thumbs!:)

Chris, do you plan to fix the nudging problem to be okay when thumbs are on?

Thanks!

SK

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Sep 20, 2012 Sep 20, 2012

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I plan to fix all the bugs we know about. I just can't promise anything about when they will be fixed.

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