P: When saving to Photoshop EPS, changing ME text orientation grays out "Include Vector Data" option

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 05, 2022 Apr 05, 2022

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Photoshop 2022 is graying out the "Include Vector Data" option when saving to Photoshop EPS and it turns out choosing the RTL paragraph option in the Paragraph Panel under ME options, something that doesn't happen in PS 2020, causes this bug. MacOS version of Photoshop so far is affected.

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https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-discussions/save-as-eps-quot-include-vector-data-...

 

 

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Explorer ,
Apr 04, 2022 Apr 04, 2022

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Hi All.

I've been saving photoshop EPSs with type as vector to be opened in Illustrator since version 2,5.

There have been toimes when this optin was grayed out.

That was because the type had a faux bold stle applied to it.

Discarding that style fixed it.

Now, the latest version of photoshop has the option permanently grayed out.

Nothing fixes it.

I tyrashed the prefs, tried on another mac. No dice.

Went back to Photoshop 2021, and.......it works!!!!

Looks like Adobe messed up really big time on this one.

Anyone have any insight?

Much appreciated. Thanx.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 04, 2022 Apr 04, 2022

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EPS is now considered an obsolete format. Which application(s) are you placing the image in?

For example, a Illustrator image would normally be Placed in InDesign as a native AI file.

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Explorer ,
Apr 04, 2022 Apr 04, 2022

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Display type in Photoshop.

When saved as an eps with the "include vector data" working, I can open the resulting paths in Illustrator.

And if it's obsolete let them get rid of it totally and incorporate a new way to do the above.

Leaving it in a non-functional state is counterintuitive to say the least.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 04, 2022 Apr 04, 2022

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I haven't used EPS files in more than a decade.  They're too limited. 

 

Illustrator has always been the preferred tool for creating vector text & graphics.   I can't see any upside in the round-about Photoshop to EPS to Illustrator workflow you're using currently.  It seems inefficient to me.

 

Nancy O'Shea, Adobe Product User & Community Professional
Alt-Web Design & Publishing ~ Web : Print : Graphics : Media

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Explorer ,
Apr 04, 2022 Apr 04, 2022

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There are plenty of reasons to use this way. This would require a lengthy post.

Just because you dont use it, doesnt mean there aren't other people on the planet that do.

But instead of knocking someone's workflow, why not address Adobe's disabling a useful feature without warning?

And, again, if, it's useless and obsolete, as you say, don' break it. Just say it's obsolete, issue a different way of doing it, and discontinue it totally.

Just leaving it dysfunctional without warning is totally dumb. But, quite frankly, is very typical for Adobe to do.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 04, 2022 Apr 04, 2022

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Photoshop is and always has been a raster image editor, not a vector graphics app. 

 

They tried to make it something it wasn't and it came back to bite them.  Since I never drank that KoolAid, I didn't get caught up into thinking Photoshop was suitable for anything other than raster output.  I think the worst you can say is they took away something that never should have been there at all.  Ditto for 3D.  Changing workflows is nothing new.  It comes with the territory.  

 

For best results, use the right tools for the job. Illustrator for vector. Photoshop for raster.  

 

Nancy O'Shea, Adobe Product User & Community Professional
Alt-Web Design & Publishing ~ Web : Print : Graphics : Media

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Explorer ,
Apr 04, 2022 Apr 04, 2022

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Here we go again!

So why does Photoshop need a type tool? Disable it! 

Just set type in Indesign or Illustrator and import it.

Why does Photoshop need shapoe tools? Draw in Illustrator and import!

Sorry, Ma'am, not the right answer.

Again, instead of focusing on why someone is doing something a certain way -- and they might have a darn good reason for it, just as you may have a reason for doing something someone else doesn't, the focus should be on whgy Adobe suddenly broke a useful to some feature it has had since 1992.

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Apr 04, 2022 Apr 04, 2022

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I opened a new file, added type and saved it as a Photoshop EPS on my Mid 2012 MBP running Catalina 10.15.7 and the latest 2022 Photoshop and Illustrator. So it seems to work. Created the eps in Photoshop and it opens in Illustrator.

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Explorer ,
Apr 04, 2022 Apr 04, 2022

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Okay. So what am I missing?

Tried it on 3 different Macs.

2 of them running Catalina, 1 of them Monterey.

And do you see the outlined type?

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 04, 2022 Apr 04, 2022

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If I select the type with the selection tool in Ai 2022, I see the blue outlined type.

Screen Shot 2022-04-04 at 6.41.13 PM.png

In Photoshop the mode was RGB/8 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 04, 2022 Apr 04, 2022

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So "Save Vector Data" is not grayed out here unless I choose "Faux Bold" as you have mentioned.

 

Have you tried going to the Character Panel menu in Photoshop and doing a Reset there?

 

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Explorer ,
Apr 05, 2022 Apr 05, 2022

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yup

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Explorer ,
Apr 05, 2022 Apr 05, 2022

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Okay Folks, I think I figured this out.

I'm running Adobe CC North American with Middle Eastern features.

If I go to the paragraph pallete and switch the paragraph orientation from rtl to ltr, "include vector data" magically reappears.

If I switch it back to rtl, it's geayed out again.

This never happened in previous versions.

So, it seems, Adobe broke another one.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 05, 2022 Apr 05, 2022

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Indeed. RTL grays out the "Include Vector Data" EPS option in 2022. Tried it out in PS 2020 and no problems there.

 

I went ahead and reported this bug. If you would like to add anything else, click on this link:

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-bugs/when-saving-to-photoshop-eps-changing-me-tex...

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