Adobe RGB color Differenz

[nahojpro]

There is a color differenz between an open file and the same file imported in a other document. Both documents are in Adobe RGB. See the screenshot as attachement.

Does anyone of yours has an idee?

Best regards

[lambiloon]

Hi you should change the color for new document in which you placed the image to look it similar...regards

[nahojpro]

thx for your respons.

The colorspace of the original file is Adobe RGB. The colorspace of a new file is also Adobe RGB. But wenn i import (or place into) the photo has a different color.  What can i do?

[NB, colourmanagement]

I'm not clear what you mean by this: "The colorspace of a new file is also Adobe RGB. But wenn i import (or place into) the photo has a different color. "

how do you "import" (or place), please describe all the steps in detail and we can try reproduce the issue.

neil barstow, colourmanagement net :: adobe forum volunteer
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[D Fosse]

This is all resolved. The images are identical, just different dark vs. light backgrounds.

[nahojpro]

thx lambiloon, its all an illusion.

I thought i could see but i'm blind!

Johan

[melissapiccone · Accepted solution]

The colors look the same in your screenshot. The light and dark backgrounds make them look different. Did you actually use the eye dropper to compare? You will have to attempt to select the same pixel in each image.

[nahojpro]

Thx for your responce.

Now i'm anser you from the iPad. The screen is not so clear like my EIZO monitor but even now I see the same color Differenz, the colors on the left site are more saturated. The obvious Differenz can Seen at the bottom of the pictures. On the left side there is a blue stroke, on the right side none.
Do you see the blue stroke?

[nahojpro]

thx melissapiccone, its all an illusion.

I thought i could see but i'm blind!

Johan

[davescm]

Both look the same to me - are you measuring a difference or is it just the effect of the black vs white border you are seeing?

Dave

[nahojpro]

Thx for your responce.

Now i'm anser you from the iPad. The screen is not so clear like my EIZO monitor but even now I see the same color Differenz, the colors on the left site are more saturated. The obvious Differenz can Seen at the bottom of the pictures. On the left side there is a blue stroke, on the right side none.
Do you see the blue stroke Too?

[davescm]

I also have Eizo monitors.

I took your screenshot into Photoshop, selected the actual images, inverted the selection and use a colour fill to  surround both images by the same background (black , white  or grey) and they look the same provided the background is the same.

I also copied one , placed it on top of the other and used the difference blend mode. There were small differences due to noise in the png but that was all. No colour shift.

Dave

[nahojpro]

Thx Dave for Loopings at the pictures. Maybe has the monitor a failure, I will check it tomorrow.

Do you see on the left picture the blue stroke?

Johan

[davescm]

Hi

It's not your monitors.

Both pictures at first glance look different. However, put both against the same surround, be that black, white, or grey and they look the same. Put one against black and one against white and they look different again. 

This is not a monitor issue but just a trick our brains play on us, and why I like to choose a neutral mid grey as my background colour in Photoshop.

Dave

[D Fosse]

Indeed. An excellent demonstration of just how much interface color matters. This is the original screenshot with a gray mask:

The blue "leak" at the bottom is now equally prominent.

[Per Berntsen]

Do you see on the left picture the blue stroke?

Johan

As mentioned previously, this is caused by the dark and light background on the images, and is not a real difference in color.

If you crop the bottom border out of the screenshot, the blue color becomes the same in both images.

[nahojpro]

thx dave, its all an illusion.

I thought i could see but i'm blind!

Johan

[davescm]

Haha.

It is a good demonstration of how the same image can look different in a different surround. Our eyes, or rather our brains, can mislead us. 🙂

Dave

[TheDigitalDog]

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davescm wrote:

Haha.

It is a good demonstration of how the same image can look different in a different surround. Our eyes, or rather our brains, can mislead us. 🙂

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And one more example of how your eyes are easily fooled:

Square A and B are the SAME color!

Square A and B are the identical color. 

Further proof here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checker_shadow_illusion

[josephlavine]

Perhaps you can use a Color Sample point one each image and the Info panel to read and compare the color values.

This would truly tell is they are different.

warmly/j