AI too clever perhaps

[FWG99]

AI in the new version of PS is undoubtedly a masive step in photo editing but....

There is always a but. I am trying to use AI to modify a group of people taken in a photo shoot. The age old problem exists, one person has their eyes shut, in another shot a different person is looking down etc. Anyone who has taken a group shot knows the problem. Now removing a person on the front row of a group using AI works extreemly well. AI makes an "intelegent" guess at what the whole person behind might look like and generally does a pretty good job. It is then easy to replace the person on the front row whithout worrying too much about an exact fit to the original position.

Now for someone on the back row who is not "acceptable". Making a selection of that person and asking AI to remove that person and expecting a version of the background to be produced in their place results in AI generating a range of random images of different fictional people or for some odd reason somtimes generates a random advertising board. It seems that AI looks at the whole photo and assumes you must want a different group of people (some look like aliens so some improvement needed here Adobe!). Inverting the selection produces a similarly wierd result.

I have developed a number of workrounds which involve multiple AI generations, merging layers, more AI, etc but all are very time consuming when dealing with even a modest size group. 

Has anyone come up with a "neat" way of dealing with this age old problem  using AI? 

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

Hi @FWG99 this is going to be the new frontier going forward - writing proper/accurate prompts for better AI results. Try "extend background" or "add wall" instead of "remove" on the back row.

[FWG99]

I will give that a try. I am certainly still on a learning curve.
Thanks

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[Gixxxa75]

Yep, Ive struggled with this as well, what ever you put it the prompt it insists of generating one of its grotesque composiite persons rather than just extend the background.

[Derek Cross]

Ensure you're using Generative Expand.

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@Derek Cross what they are referring to is not using the crop tool to expand the canvas, but replacing people/objects in the image with background fill and not another verison of a person.

[Derek Cross]

Gixxxa75 seemed to want to extend the background, but maybe he didn't!

[Gixxxa75]

Hi Derek, no I wanted to remove a person from the end of the wediing group shot, was not using the crop tool. The issue is that the AI insisted on generating a new person to replace the person I was trying to remove, rather than replace him or her with the grass, trees, gravestones etc in the background of the image.

[Derek Cross]

Are you using the latest full version v25 (not the Beta version)?

Were you able to make a selection around the person you wanted to remove (perhaps with the Lasso Tool) and not overlap another person in the image?

[Gixxxa75]

It was a little while ago, so it was the Beta, havent tried with the non beta v25 to be honest.

[FWG99]

Yes .

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[FWG99]

This is exactly problem. Maybe Adobe programmers are aware that this is a wider problem to users.

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[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@Gixxxa75 did you tell the prompt what to add in?

[FWG99]

No because there did not seem to be a prompt which meets the criteria.

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