Best color profile/ print settings

[NM MSDK]

Hi all!

Recently my company got new printers, but now my prints look ridiculous.

When i first started using photoshop a few months ago, you all knew what to do to get the best prints. So could you maybe help me out once again?

I use rendered pixel based image's in a booklet style (yes i know photoshop isnt the best tool for this, next month ill get InDesign).

But for the remainder of the month ill still have to print, so does anyone know the best settings for my new printer? Its the "kyocera taskalfa 2554ci".

And these are my print settings:

Apologies its not in english. But i cant change that within a few minutes.

Thanks already!

-Nick

[D Fosse]

CIE RGB has no business here. The printer profile that you set up here has to be the one specifically made for your printer model and the paper you're printing on. The printer profile is specific, not generic.

Is this a laser printer? I haven't used one, and I don't know if this model supports icc profiles at all. If it does, they will have been installed automatically along with the printer driver. Find the right profile.

If it doesn't support icc profiles, you cannot use "Photoshop manages color". Then you need to use "Printer manages color", and you just send it a standard Adobe RGB/sRGB/ProPhoto file. It's not generally a good idea to print from CMYK files. That's for 4-ink offset print. It'll have to be converted back to RGB in the printer driver first, needlessly limiting gamut.

Here's what you need to watch when "Photoshop manages color":

[NM MSDK]

You are amazing man!

Only half of the terms you used i cannot find in any back in any of the manauls nor can i find them online.

But somewhere these days one of the mechanics from the supplier comes around, do you have any tips of what terms/settings are neccesary to know if i want to print in high quality?

First off i will ask about what printer profile it is and if it supports icc profile's. Anything more i should ask about?

Thanks man!

-NM

[NB, colourmanagement]

@NM MSDK Thats right, CIE RGB is not a printer profile, but the printer manufacturer may not have installed device profiles with the print driver, however, many laser type printers are designed to accept CMYK from a "standard" press colourspace like 'ISOcoated_v2_eci.icc' or perhaps 'USWebCoatedSWOP.icc' 

you'd need to find out which, or make some tests

try this for testing:

please go here and download the Adobe RGB testimage: https://www.colourmanagement.net/index.php/downloads_listing/

I hope this helps
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[NM MSDK]

Hi everyone, 

I have looked deeper into the matter and i now know a bit more.

My printer does support ICC-profiles, and is pixel based.

My printer supports about 16 profiles, so there you guys know maybe more about then me.

these are the top ones, the last are also HP OJ variations.

And the paper i use is universal multifunctional a4 paper.

The Navigator 80 g.m-2 silky touch ultra-bright to be exact.

Maybe someone now knows what to use? Adobe Support really does not help me much

Thanks!

-Nick

[davescm]

None of the ICC profiles in your list are for the Kyocera taskalfa 2554ci printer that you mention in your first post. A profile is specific to both the printer and the paper being used, so the HP profiles do not apply here, they will print incorrectly.

I had a quick look at the Kyocera website and it does not seem to have ICC profiles for that printer. So, unless they were installed with your print driver, you might not have them.

In that case, where no specific ICC profiles are available, do not use Photoshop manages colour. Set your document to a safe RGB colour space such as sRGB. Then when printing try 'Printer Manages Colour' and in Print settings (which takes you to the Kyocera driver) set your paper media type to plain paper and look for a neutral rather than vivid colour setting. I don't have a Kyocera printer here so can't give you the exact description.

Dave

[NM MSDK]

Thanks Dave,

But the strange thing is that a mechanic from Kyocera was here today, and he told me that the printer does support ICC-profile's.

Maybe he was wrong, but where could i potentially find it?

Thanks

-Nick

[davescm]

Perhaps he knows where to find them 🙂 I could not see them on their website but maybe I was not seaching correctly.

Dave

[NM MSDK]

Maybe he understood me wrong instead.

It was quite the old-timer i must say. 

Also when i asked where i could locate them, he just directed me to the color management tab within my windows printer tab (wich is where i took the screenshot from).

[davescm]

That is where they would show up if they were installed. Often they are installed with a print driver but sometimes they need to be installed separately.

Dave

[ametallichick22]

I am also having the issue. I select Photoshop manages color but here are the options I am givien in the drop-down menu. 

[ametallichick22]

I called Canon for help in installing my new printer driver  (Canon Pixma 200S) and they said the printer profile is an Adobe question. 

[NB, colourmanagement]

@ametallichick22 are you looking for Canon Printer profiles?

Generally those are installed along with the printer manufacturer's printer driver software, which (in this case) you'd download from  Canon's website.

That's a proper photo printer Canon should install the profioles in that process. 

Once installed, the printer profiles  are normally viewable in Photoshop.

Did you download and install the Canon printer driver?

Or maybe you're on a mac using the Apple "AirPrint" drivers?

I suggest you search your system and try find the Canon paper profiles for your machine

this should help you know where to look.

Please give more about your setup info and we'll try assist (mac or windows etc)

I hope this helps

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[ametallichick22]

I thought the same thing and even told the rep I was speaking with on the phone that as I went through the drop-down menu while he was on the phone and he said and I quote "that's an adobe question". I am using a Mac. I did download the printer driver from Canon and had the rep walk me through it because when I initially downloaded it, the paper types through the Quality & media menu in the print dialog box were very limited (no choice of paper type, etc).  I am also wondering why I do not have an Adobe RGB option in the drop down menu pic above? And, thank you for your help. 

[NB, colourmanagement]

@ametallichick22 Just to be clear on listed "paper types" - if you are using the correct printer driver software you will see actual manufacturer's media names in printer settings under media, not just matte/glossy etc (that’s the Airprint driver) .

BUT although the Airprint driver is to be avoided (I can explain how) that doesn't explain why your Canon printer profiles aren't showing in Photoshop manages Color , are they installed? Have you searched for them in the finder?

Don't worry about Adobe RGB, it's not a 'printer profile' and should not be used as such - I don't see it here either. 

I hope this helps

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