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Color display difference in adobe products

Community Beginner ,
Jan 02, 2023 Jan 02, 2023

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PHOTOSHOP version 24.0
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Hello. There is a problem with the color display in bridge and photoshop. On my PC, in the Adobe products, colors are different from what other people see on their PC in photoshop , bridge and other programs. When I convert a photo I set the srgb profile, color space in photoshop also srgb. Even when I upload a jpeg to photoshop, it looks different (shadows are much lighter than they really are, contrast is lower, colors are less vivid). The problem remains regardless of the photoshop version.photo_2022-12-30_21-25-46.jpgphoto_2022-12-30_21-26-07.jpgphoto_2022-12-30_21-41-21.jpgphoto_2022-12-30_21-41-31.jpg

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Community Expert , Jan 02, 2023 Jan 02, 2023

There is pretty extreme black clipping in all these examples; I don't think any of them look correct, just more or less wrong.

 

Assuming the images all have the sRGB profile correctly embedded, this looks like a bad/defective/incorrect monitor profile to me. Where does the monitor profile come from? Are you using a calibrator?

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Community Expert , Jan 02, 2023 Jan 02, 2023

You're confusing monitor profile with calibration. They're not the same thing. The monitor profile is a description of the monitor in its calibrated state. A calibrator will write a profile after the calibration is finished.

 

A bad monitor profile can often affect applications differently - in fact, that's a typical smoking gun.

 

The monitor profile is a standard icc profile just like any other icc profile (like e.g. sRGB). It's a description, or a map, of a color space. The application uses t

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There is pretty extreme black clipping in all these examples; I don't think any of them look correct, just more or less wrong.

 

Assuming the images all have the sRGB profile correctly embedded, this looks like a bad/defective/incorrect monitor profile to me. Where does the monitor profile come from? Are you using a calibrator?

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Thank you for the answer. All these photos are screenshots from one monitor. I chose dark photos because they show the problem better. The situation does not change on well converted photos, it is just not so obvious. The main problem is that the color in Photoshop is different from the color in other programs, as well as from the color that other users see in Photoshop on their PCs. And it does not depend on whether the calibration is correct or not.

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You're confusing monitor profile with calibration. They're not the same thing. The monitor profile is a description of the monitor in its calibrated state. A calibrator will write a profile after the calibration is finished.

 

A bad monitor profile can often affect applications differently - in fact, that's a typical smoking gun.

 

The monitor profile is a standard icc profile just like any other icc profile (like e.g. sRGB). It's a description, or a map, of a color space. The application uses this profile in a standard profile conversion from the document profile into the monitor profile. This is performed by the application on the fly, as you work.

 

If the profile is bad, the conversion gives the wrong result, and Photoshop can't display correctly. But a marginal profile, or one not written to correct icc specification, can often work in one application but fail in another.

 

In addition, the source color spaces can be different, and so the conversion is different, and again, one may work and the other fail.

 

Open the Windows color management dialog (type it in Search if you don't know where it is), take a screenshot and post it here:

Displayprofile_50_2.png

Many monitor manufacturers distribute profiles through Windows Update. These profiles are remarkably often defective in various ways. The fix is to use a calibrator, or as a temporary measure use a generic profile like sRGB or Adobe RGB (depending on type of monitor). This will not be entirely accurate, but better than a broken profile.

 

Applications that do not support color management don't do any of this. They just send the document RGB numbers straight to screen uncorrected. They will not be affected by a bad profile; they're not using it anyway. But they will never display accurately either.

 

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Got it. Thank you. Here is a screenshot of my color management.

The word in brackets is (default).

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OK. Replace that profile with sRGB IEC61966-2.1 and see if it looks better.

 

Click "add" which brings you to the profile list. Find sRGB IEC61966-2.1, and "set as default profile". Note - you need to relaunch Photoshop when done, it loads the profile at application startup.

 

Again, the proper way to do this is to use a calibrator, but sRGB is often close enough for non-critical use.

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Done. Looks like the problem is solved.

Thank you very much for your advices and your time. Have a nice day! Kind regards.

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Whow, what a brilliant and really useful reply, from one of the colour management masters, who help out on this forum.

 

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Thanks, Derek <blushing> 😉 Whenever things don't display as they should, the monitor profile is always the prime suspect.

 

Tatiana, if at some point you want to take the next step to working with reliably accurate color/tone, you might consider buying a calibrator. They're not as expensive as people think. For serious Photoshop work, this is an indispensable and essential tool.

 

I'd recommend the i1 Display Pro. The colorimeter (sensor) is the best on the market in its class (well worth the price alone, even without the software), and also fully supported by more advanced dedicated calibrators for high-end displays like Eizo Colornavigator or NEC Spectraview. So it's a very future-proof investment.

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Now there is a coincidence. I've just completed give both my monitors their monthly calibration & profile with the i1 Display Pro and Eizo Color Navigator.

 

Be aware, for those considering purchasing, that X-Rite now list the i1Display Pro as out of production. It appears to have been replaced with the ColorChecker Display Pro or Display Plus from Calibrite.

https://www.xrite.com/categories/calibration-profiling/i1display-pro

https://calibrite.com/product/colorchecker-display-pro-with-colorchecker-classic-mini/

https://calibrite.com/product/colorchecker-display-plus/

 

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Not a surprise actually. The i1D3 has been in production now for, what is it, twelve, fifteen years? It looks like the same basic construction, probably with some improvements for HDR, OLED etc.

 

At the moment I see no need to replace my two i1D3s. With their glass dichroic filters (no fading!), they'll keep on measuring reliably for years to come, at least as long as I don't replace my old-school Eizo CGs 😉

 

I haven't checked sensor support in Colornavigator 7, but if the new one isn't there it will be added soon.

 

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Thread moved from bugs to discussions. As answered by D Fosse above, this does indeed have the symptoms a defective monitor profile, rather than an application bug.

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