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Filter Lighting effects not working right

New Here ,
May 17, 2021 May 17, 2021

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Since the new update, when I go to filter and lighting effects, you no longer see any options to move or change the lighting direction or size for the point lights. WHat happened?

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Community Expert , May 17, 2021 May 17, 2021

GPU functions are changing in Photoshop. Driven by OpenGL being deprecated in operating systems (or removed in the case of MacOS), Adobe are rewriting GPU graphics function to use the more modern Direct X and Metal. That is good for us in the long term but a massive undertaking for Adobe as it means rewriting the functionality at the very core of Photoshop.

3d and Render Lighting Effects, which is based on the same 3D engine, still use the Open GL GPU functions. So to use them you will need to g

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Community Expert , Aug 18, 2021 Aug 18, 2021

Please see the Adobe article here for an update on 3D functions, which includes Lighting effects as in its current form that uses the 3D engine:
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/3d-faq.html

As customers ourselves (this forum is answered by volunteer Photoshop users) there is nothing we can add to that, or do to change that decision.

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New Here ,
May 17, 2021 May 17, 2021

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The same things happening to me

 

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Community Expert ,
May 17, 2021 May 17, 2021

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GPU functions are changing in Photoshop. Driven by OpenGL being deprecated in operating systems (or removed in the case of MacOS), Adobe are rewriting GPU graphics function to use the more modern Direct X and Metal. That is good for us in the long term but a massive undertaking for Adobe as it means rewriting the functionality at the very core of Photoshop.

3d and Render Lighting Effects, which is based on the same 3D engine, still use the Open GL GPU functions. So to use them you will need to go to Preferences >Technology Previews and check "Deactivate Native Canvas". Then close and restart Photoshop.

 

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New Here ,
May 17, 2021 May 17, 2021

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I should have posted. I read your reply to someone else about this same issue and made the change. Thank you.

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Community Expert ,
May 17, 2021 May 17, 2021

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You're welcome 🙂

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New Here ,
May 20, 2021 May 20, 2021

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Thanks @davescm , 

 

Unchecked that dialog box, but seems like the same issue still exists.  Would disabling it not permit it to function at all?  Either way, it's still not active.

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Community Expert ,
May 20, 2021 May 20, 2021

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Did you restart Photoshop after checking it? (Note that is checking Deactivate Native Canvas not unchecking it)

 

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Explorer ,
May 31, 2021 May 31, 2021

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"Deactivate Native Canvas" did NOT work. Instructions followed precisely. Multiple program restarts AND reboots as well. Only reverting to 22.2 put me back in business. The computer is less than a year old. 

 

MacBookPro16,1 / 8-Core Intel Core i9, 2.3 GHz 

L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB, L3 Cache: 16 MB

64 GB memory

 

Disappointed, 

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Explorer ,
May 20, 2021 May 20, 2021

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I've had continual problems since 22.4.0 and 22.4.1, and every recommendation has been an iteration of "turn off <an item> in Preferences" and restart. Yesterday, my Lighting Effects worked. Today, they don't. It shows as available under Filters, but when you use it, there are no handles, tools, nothing. And last night, files opened this way, like a CAPTCHA puzzle pic: 

 

CAPTCHA or something.png

 

I've tried all the suggestions several times. I've repeatedly restarted Photoshop, I've logged out, I've even restarted my maxed-out MacBook Pro 2020. Nothing works. At this point, to finish some work I started last week, I'll have to turn off auto updates and try reverting to an older version that worked. I have no idea what else to try. 

 

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New Here ,
May 23, 2021 May 23, 2021

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I have the same problem

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Explorer ,
Jun 01, 2021 Jun 01, 2021

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Had the same two problems! Lighting Effects greyed out no matter whate graphics settings and having that Technology Previews checked as well as the weird "puzzle" look when opening a PSD with multiple layers and smart objects. I've reinstalled twice. I've also once got the Lighting Effects to show after resetting Preferences. But then the same problem returned after modifying some preferences (not related to the Lighting Effects issue). 

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Participant ,
Jun 03, 2021 Jun 03, 2021

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Same problem. If I click deactivate, Lighting Effects are grayed out. And if I don't deactivate I, too, get crazy screens. Sigh, once again I have to go back to an earlier version.

 

Why are we paying subscription fees when the newer versions are unusable?!

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New Here ,
Jun 25, 2022 Jun 25, 2022

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Followed instructions and nothing works.

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 11, 2021 Jun 11, 2021

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Same problem and I've tried all of the suggestions given, but nothing is working.  Very frustrating.  

 

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Jun 11, 2021 Jun 11, 2021

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Up until yesterday installing PS 22.4.2 corrected the problem -- and it seemed to be permanent. Sadly, after returning to my iMac I saw that the application, in fact, the whole system had apparently crashed! There was an error message about the CC app having some issue. So, allowed the update to the CC App. However,  after updating that app and opening PS, things were back to "normal" malfunctioning!!  -- images opened with tile effect, lighting effects greyed out -- whether or not the Deactivate Native Canvas was checked or not. In fact, if unchecked, Lighting Effects was available, but completely useless --just a splotch of black, no handles, etc. Then, shortly PS crashed!!! Attaching first part of log file here:

 

Process: Adobe Photoshop 2021 [2069]
Path: /Applications/Adobe Photoshop 2021/Adobe Photoshop 2021.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe Photoshop 2021
Identifier: Adobe Photoshop 2021
Version: 22.4.2 (22.4.2)
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: ??? [1]
Responsible: Adobe Photoshop 2021 [2069]
User ID: 501

Date/Time: 2021-06-11 12:21:52.202 -0400
OS Version: macOS 11.4 (20F71)
Report Version: 12
Anonymous UUID: AE7DD6ED-1AE4-FFCD-0DE6-734566F6D562


Time Awake Since Boot: 2400 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Termination Signal: Segmentation fault: 11
Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0xb
Terminating Process: exc handler [2069]

VM Regions Near 0:
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__TEXT 1018c5000-10878d000 [110.8M] r-x/r-x SM=COW /Applications/Adobe Photoshop 2021/Adobe Photoshop 2021.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe Photoshop 2021

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x0000000101cd06bf 0x1018c5000 + 4241087
1 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x0000000101ccfa09 0x1018c5000 + 4237833
2 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x000000010491d21a 0x1018c5000 + 50692634
3 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x000000010490ceeb 0x1018c5000 + 50626283
4 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00000001049dd721 0x1018c5000 + 51480353
5 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00000001049c8058 0x1018c5000 + 51392600
6 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00000001049c8164 0x1018c5000 + 51392868
7 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00000001048c8e7d 0x1018c5000 + 50347645
8 com.adobe.ps.spaces 0x0000000122a6d065 PG_SendEventOverride(objc_object*, objc_selector*, NSEvent*) + 261
9 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff233905fd -[NSApplication _handleEvent:] + 65
10 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff22f2025e -[NSApplication run] + 623
11 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00000001048c9952 0x1018c5000 + 50350418
12 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00000001048cbc0a 0x1018c5000 + 50359306
13 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00000001049c892c 0x1018c5000 + 51394860
14 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x000000010445fda8 0x1018c5000 + 45723048
15 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00000001018caf09 0x1018c5000 + 24329
16 libdyld.dylib 0x00007fff20652f5d start + 1

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Jun 11, 2021 Jun 11, 2021

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I've posted on this issue with repeated and detailed reports. The only success I've had is reverting to 22.2 where Render > Lighting Effects works. I saw the 22.4.2 "Update Available" and almost installed it. I'm sorry for your troubles, but you saved me from wasting more time.

 

A friend who works with a well-known digital-media publishing company tipped me off to the 22.2 solution. His entire company reverted to 22.2 and won't update Photoshop because of this issue.

 

This reminds me of an unintentionally funny 1970s Ford Thunderbird recall letter. It advised that the rear transaxle could separate if you drive the car. Note the wording, "if you drive the car." And why did Ford think someone would buy a car? Godfrey Daniels!

 

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It also reminds me of an old radio-comedy bit we did back in the '80s, with Soviet Network News correspondent Biff Stroganoff, reporting from Chernobyl: [heavy cartoon Russian accent] "Everything is fine here, especially near the power plant. Back to you."

 

I await an Adobe fix, but with dwindling hope. 

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Explorer ,
Jun 11, 2021 Jun 11, 2021

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Enjoyed the Thunderbird tale!! And thanks for sharing the tip from your friend. 

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 09, 2021 Aug 09, 2021

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Thank you so much for this tip just reverted ro 22.2 and now it works. This has been driving me insane all day.

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Explorer ,
Aug 18, 2021 Aug 18, 2021

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I have also reported this issue several times lighting filters have not worked for me since 22.2  and still don't and I am not on a Mac,  I am on a PC with a more than adequate vid card and 32 megs of added RAM.  So yup once again I am back to version 22.2  which takes away my ability to use some of the new features in Photoshop.  

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Participant ,
Jun 12, 2021 Jun 12, 2021

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So are others having the same problem @marzo19 is having: when using ver 22.4.2, lighting effects are initially restored but then the system crashes and they no longer work?

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Explorer ,
Jun 12, 2021 Jun 12, 2021

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I won't try to duplicate @marzo19's 22.4.2 crash, I need to work. That Lighting Effects remains broken is a critical problem. I'm no longer experimenting with new releases, Adobe should be doing that with their own employees' computers. Do "in-house field tests" on many of those computers before asking users to be a laboratory. I used to enjoy being a pioneer on new releases, but I'm joining the settlers. Let somebody else get shot full of arrows first, it's happening over and over with these Photoshop updates. 

 

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Jun 12, 2021 Jun 12, 2021

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I agree! Providing the latest (not fully tested) ain't the greatest!! 

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Explorer ,
Aug 09, 2021 Aug 09, 2021

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Any update on this issue???

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Community Expert ,
Aug 18, 2021 Aug 18, 2021

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Please see the Adobe article here for an update on 3D functions, which includes Lighting effects as in its current form that uses the 3D engine:
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/3d-faq.html

As customers ourselves (this forum is answered by volunteer Photoshop users) there is nothing we can add to that, or do to change that decision.

Dave

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Explorer ,
Aug 19, 2021 Aug 19, 2021

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Thanks. Yes, I saw that after doing the latest PS update and shared the info with others on other similar conversations. Of course, the alternative (other than workarounds with layers, gradient maps, etc., provided by many YouTube PS experts) is the expensive Substance option (at $39.99/month). Also, Adobe will discontinue the 22.2 version in two years in August.

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