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Grouped smart objects become too large when saved

Community Beginner ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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Photoshop 25.7.0
Windows 10

Since some versions of Photoshop there has been a rather annoying problem that costs a lot of storage space and often exceeds the storage size of PSD files. Grouped smart objects become too large without recalculation!

 

The simplest case in which the error occurs for me is as follows:

 

  1. I open from ACR  3* RAW files from a Sony camera as smart objects in Photoshop and arrange them as  layers in one image.
  2. When I save this image with 3 layers it is 1.47GB in size
  3. If I group/create and save these 3 smart object layers as a new smart object, it can only be saved as a psb file and is 2.3GB in size.
  4. However, if I now open the smart object grouping once and open a smart object in it again in ACR and have it recalculated without any changes by closing it, I can then also put it back into the grouped smart object with a recalculation without any changes. When I save this image again it is only 1.77 GB in size.

 

So the problem is this: When smart objects are grouped into a new smart object, the image becomes far too large when saved. If you trigger a recalculation of the grouped smart object, for example by recalculating an inner smart object, it will become smaller again.

 

The problem also occurs when an inner smart object is just deleted. The problem can be reproduced at any time and has occurred since several older versions of Photoshop.

 

I would be very happy if this annoying problem could be solved.

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Jun 06, 2024 Jun 06, 2024

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I don’t follow your description. 

Could you please post screenshots with the pertinent Panels (Toolbar, Layers, Options Bar, …) visible to clarify? 

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Jun 06, 2024 Jun 06, 2024

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Yes.
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Jun 06, 2024 Jun 06, 2024

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I cannot observe a noticable change in filesize when updating a Smart Object containg 3 cr2-files. 

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Jun 06, 2024 Jun 06, 2024

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I've had this problem for several versions of Photoshop with hundreds of images. I can also reproduce the problem on two different computers with new installations. To be on the safe side, I just tried it again with the latest version 25.9.

 

1. Three RAWs as smart object layers
2. The grouped smart object directly after conversion
3 The grouped recalculated smart object after I also had an inner smart object recalculated

 

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Jun 06, 2024 Jun 06, 2024

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I cannot reproduce the issue. 

 

Have you tried flushing metadata in the containg document and the SO? 

Could you have edited the contents of the SO in a way that might have affected the noise at all? 

Can you provide a file containing the 3 RAW-SOs pre-conversion for testing? 

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Jun 06, 2024 Jun 06, 2024

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I can provide you with the three PS files plus the original RAW files for download as a package for internal use. Where should I send the download link?

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