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Help with Print / Screen Resolution in Preferences > Units & Rulers > New Document Preset Resolution

Explorer ,
Jun 05, 2022 Jun 05, 2022

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Hi 

I am a PS newbee. I am using PS to create JPGs of scans for a Print on Demand Business

The .PSD source file is set to 300 PPI

When I Export As > JPG and open the JPG in PS for a particular file I see "72 ppi" as in screenshot below:

Screenshot 2022-06-05 121316.jpg 

However, when I go to Edit > Preferences > Units & Rulers > New Document Preset Resolution

It shows two (2) resolution: a Print Resolution of 300 Pixels/Inch and a Screen Resolution of 72 Pixels/Inch (see screenshot below)

Question: Am I correct to understand that when I send the image to the Print on Demand service, it will print at 300 pixels/inch? And, that the "72 ppi" I see on the botton left of the screen as well as in the Preferences New Document Resolutions ONLY refers to who the JPG renders on the monitor.

Many Thanks! David Levine SF, CA 

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LEGEND , Jun 07, 2022 Jun 07, 2022

@David2451212609v3 wrote:

 

Question: Am I correct to understand that when I send the image to the Print on Demand service, it will print at 300 pixels/inch? And, that the "72 ppi" I see on the botton left of the screen as well as in the Preferences New Document Resolutions ONLY refers to who the JPG renders on the monitor.

 


 

This tag has nothing to do with anything really useful, it's just metadata and no, not only do you not have to print at 300DPI (printers use dots), the tag doesn't ensur

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Jun 07, 2022 Jun 07, 2022

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Export strips out the PPI value, since it's not required for screen viewing, which Export is intended for.

When you open the exported jpg in Photoshop, it has to assign a PPI value, which happens to be 72. The number is not important, but it has to assign some value to display type correctly, and to display rulers with physical dimensions.

So the jpgs you send to Print on Demand will not have any ppi value, unless you resaved the jpg in Photoshop (not recommended), in which case the value would be 72.

 

To create jpgs at 300 PPI, use Save As or Save a copy, which will preserve the value from the PSD.

The New document resolutions in Preferences only apply to documents created from scratch in Photoshop, and will not affect your scans.

 

Note that PPI (Pixels per inch) is optional metadata used by printer drivers to calculate the print size.

Pixel dimensions divided by the PPI value = Printed dimensions in inches.

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Jun 07, 2022 Jun 07, 2022

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Many thanks! Through trial and error I arrved at exactly your solution using Save a Copy, keeping the original PPIs of the edited JPG

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Jun 08, 2022 Jun 08, 2022

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'Save as' is definitely better in this setting.

You have discovered the right answer, make sure to check "embed profile" and also to send the files with to the Print On Demand service the right dimensions and specified resolution.

 

Jpeg images don't take well to resizing at all (or cropping) because either prompts another round of Jpeg compression.

So, take the master PSD, make a copy, I'd archive the original full size

Working on the copy you made, flatten any layers, 

Your POD service may specify a specific colour space, now's the time to make that conversion

 

Next re-size to the exact print dimensions needed, and set the resolution

(maybe they specified 300ppi, that’s OK then) 

 

Now it's time to sharpen your image (best way is using Photoshop's 'unsharp mask')

- why? because the digital process reduces sharpness, so you're trying to get back to what was in the original scene, generally NOT adding sharpness (unless you want to) - just 'preserving' it.

View at 100% to assess your sharpening. 

 

'Save As' a JPeg, check embed profile

 

You're done

 

I hope this helps
neil barstow, colourmanagement net :: adobe forum volunteer:: co-author: 'getting colour right'
google me "neil barstow colourmanagement" for lots of free articles on colour management

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@David2451212609v3 wrote:

 

Question: Am I correct to understand that when I send the image to the Print on Demand service, it will print at 300 pixels/inch? And, that the "72 ppi" I see on the botton left of the screen as well as in the Preferences New Document Resolutions ONLY refers to who the JPG renders on the monitor.

 


 

This tag has nothing to do with anything really useful, it's just metadata and no, not only do you not have to print at 300DPI (printers use dots), the tag doesn't ensure a printed output will be at the value provided. 

Work in pixels! 

I wrote my first article for a magazine on Resolution way back in 1998 and I see it's still a topic of confusion today. FWIW, the article is archived here:
http://digitaldog.net/files/Resolution.pdf
Let's start here with some caveats and why I suggest always working in pixels. 
1. Digital images don't have any size other than the space they take up on some storage media. This size varies by many attributes even if the document has the same number of pixels: bit depth, layers, file type and possible compression, color space. It's not worth even considering this size due to so many differences. Digital images therefore should be considered in pixel density. And for this discussion I'm going to limit this to one axis (let's say the long axix) and the image is 1000 pixels. 
2. An analogy is necessary to discuss the resolution tag in digital images. If I'm 6 feet tall and every stride I take is 3 feet, and my friend is 5 feet tall and every stride he takes is 2 feet, when we both walk exactly 1 mile, we walked exactly a mile. That I walked with less strides (resolution) doesn't change that I walked exactly 1 mile (pixels). 
3. The resolution tag places no role in the 1000 pixel document in this respect: 1000 pixels at 100PPI and 1000 pixels at 100PPI are the same: 1000 pixels. In fact you can take a document that has 1000 pixles with a resolution tag of 100PPI, duplicate it and change the resolution to 1000PPI and the two are identical other than for metadata such as this resolution tag. And of course metadata like date/time the document was created and so forth. The two documents are 1000 pixels and the tag has no role and does nothing at this time. Set it for anything you want, as often as you want, it's the same digital image at this point. 
For all intent and purposes, the resolution tag plays no role. The number of pixels does. But wait you say, "I want to output the 1000 pixel image". To a print or on screen. OK, now we have a new size to consider! Let's work with a print. Computers are not too smart, they have no idea what you wish for a print size until you tell it. They do know you have 1000 pixels to use to make the print. What size print do you want? The answer comes about when you divide up the pixels you currently have (more about what you might have later) for this print. Now size can be inches, feet, meters, miles, CM, MM you get the point. Let's stick with inches for this story. You have 1000 pixels and the resolution tag is set to 100PPI. You simply need to understand simple math (division) or have a calculator once you accept you have 1000 pixels. At 100PPI (the tag), a print could (repeat could be), 10 inches. If the tag is 1000PPI, you're going to end up with 1 inch if you allow the computer to provide that division of your pixels. If the resolution tag is 23PPI, the size would be 43.4783 inches (here's where a calculator is useful). It's not if the tag is in MM or CM, or you alter the tag value. But in every case, the data is 1000 pixels. That is the critical number to know about first. The other number can always be changed so software can at this point understand a potential size for output. 
OK, so now Lightroom (or Photoshop or anything else) comes into play. And you ask for that 1000 pixel document to be output to 10 inches at 200PPI. What's a computer and software to do? You don't have 2000 pixels. So the software will interpolate and add more pixels out of thin air so to speak. Or you could reduce the number of pixels with interpolation. This is where Robert got a big flummoxed. He said "I didn't interpolate, LR did". Of course it did! If you ask for output that requires 2000 pixels and you only have 1000 pixels, AND you give the software permission to make more pixels, it will. It will interpolate. It interpolates because you told it to interpolate and make more pixels due to the size relationship with the current tag. 
Now to the deal with sharpening. Until you print the image, it's still 1000 pixels. The PPI tag is moot. But you asked in the print module for a print at a specific size. And guess what, LR sharpens based on what it knows about the number of pixels (current or what you might, repeat might interpolate) and the size you asked for. Output sharpening is output resolution and size specific. So that tag is NOW used. But you still have and have always had a 1000 pixel document san's permission to interpolate adding or removing pixels. 
Work in pixels. Have a calculator nearby if necessary. Pretty much ignore the resolution tag until, if, you need to output that data and you require a specific output size or sharpening in the case of LR. Understand you can allow software to interpolate BASED on the resolution tag. If the tag is 100PPI and you tell LR you want 10 inches, the results are quite different than if the tag is 1000PPI and you tell LR you want 10 inches. You are in control. The software only looks at the tag if and when you tell it to look and use that tag to produce some size with the pixels you have.  

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"

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Many thanks

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