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Lack of memory

New Here ,
Oct 14, 2021 Oct 14, 2021

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i am already aware that my new laptop does not have a massive amount of built in memory, either Ram or system memory. But i am gradually now learning to identify which things i perhaps cannot do. For example the other day i attempted a project which involved first creating a new document, I then discovered that the settings given in the guidelines for the tutorial, width 2000 x height 2500 resolution 188 immediatly caused my memory to go into the red, so i now need to learn what is acceptable and also what are the implications of being forced to use lower settings.

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Adobe Community Professional , Oct 15, 2021 Oct 15, 2021
You have a preset there that is going to produce an insanely big file: 2000 x 2500 centimeters, at 120 pixels per centimeter. That's 300 000 pixels long side! That will bring anything other than an extremely high-speced machine to its knees instantly. Anything over, say, 15 000 pixels would be considered a big file and you almost never need that in most practical situations. 300 000 is completely off the map.

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i am already aware that my new laptop does not have a massive amount of built in memory, either Ram or system memory. But i am gradually now learning to identify which things i perhaps cannot do. For example the other day i attempted a project which involved first creating a new document, I then discovered that the settings given in the guidelines for the tutorial, width 2000 x height 2500 resolution 188 immediatly caused my memory to go into the red, so i now need to learn what is acceptable and also what are the implications of being forced to use lower settings.


By @picmender

 

Could you add a screenshot in your answer with the exact specs of the new file: were 2000 and 2500 in pixels?

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/kb/maximum-image-size-limits-photoshop.html

(embed the screenshot by using the 11th icon on top of your writing space)

Which Elements version and how much RAM? In practice, you should not have any problem with 8 GB.

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i am slightly embarressed because i have just replicated the first steps with no effect?? maybe something else had caused it, 

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Enthusiast ,
Oct 15, 2021 Oct 15, 2021

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This post needs to be moved to the Photoshop forum.

 

Walter in Davie, FL

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New Here ,
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how do i do that please

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Yes, @picmender , your screenshots are from Photoshop CC.  This is the Photoshop Elements forum.  Since there are currently some issues with moving threads between forums, I am not going to move this one.  So please post in the Photoshop Ecosystem forum.

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Sorry i am fairly new to this i will move it.

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You have a preset there that is going to produce an insanely big file: 2000 x 2500 centimeters, at 120 pixels per centimeter. That's 300 000 pixels long side! That will bring anything other than an extremely high-speced machine to its knees instantly.

 

Anything over, say, 15 000 pixels would be considered a big file and you almost never need that in most practical situations. 300 000 is completely off the map.

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Well spotted Dag

@picmender  Using cm or inches instead of pixels when creating a new document is a common mistake but makes a massive difference to the size of the file and hence the size in memory.  What D Fosse has pointed out is that you are now using pixels but were previously using cm.

 

Dave

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New Here ,
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Thank for that info, expert knowledge is what i sadly lack, i didnt realise when setting up the significance of the figs thanks again.

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In addition to what was said by @D Fosse  and @davescm about using pixels instead of inches, the best canvas size to use depends on the finished product and what it will be used for.  If this is a print project, consult your print professional beforehand for detailed specifications about size, DPI, and color preset you should use. 

 

If your device is low on physical memory, get an external hard drive for additional scratch disk space.

 

Nancy O'Shea, Adobe Product User & Community Professional
Alt-Web Design & Publishing ~ Web : Print : Graphics : Media

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New Here ,
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I would say first that i am very inexperienced with both computers and photoshop. I have managed to set up a small scratch drive, however even though i have ticked on the scratch drive page of PS my system seems reluctant to use it.

Thank you everyone for the tips the next time it happens i will take some pics and send them in, when it happened the other day my system memory went into the red and yet i still had some memory available on the scratch drive.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 16, 2021 Oct 16, 2021

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" I have managed to set up a small scratch drive" Can you tell us what you did? Setting up a scratch drive normally means connecting an external disk, but these aren't usually small (in disk space).

 

Also, it's well worth learning the difference between memory and disk space. Similar, but very different. 

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Yes i cleared one of my spare external hard drives which was 500 gb in size, in reality that gives me 430gb to use. I went into the preferences/scrstch discs in PS and selected it as well as the "C" drive which is my computer drive. 

Can anywhere i can find out more about memory and disk space please.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 16, 2021 Oct 16, 2021

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Hi, that looks perfect. Except I wonder whether it would be better to stop using C altogether? I don't know the answer to that, perhaps someone can share their experience. It is important to keep SSD drives from getting full. (I found this problem only this week, not using Photoshop; an external SSD dropped to 1% of its normal speed, and this turned out to be because I had let it get too full. 

 

Let's see if I can summarise memory versus disk space. 

- Memory is the very, very fast place where apps run. It will be thousands of times quicker than disk or SSD. It is emptied each time you reboot or switch off. Another word for memory is RAM. Basic computers have as little as 4GB, and that's barely enough for Adobe apps to even start. (Partly because the system will already be using most of it). 

- Disk space is where you keep your files. It remembers things even when you switch off, of course. Big files are made by Photoshop to keep copies of all your history and stuff when you are editing, and these can be huge. Photoshop calls this a "scatch disk" but a better name would be "disk where Photoshop keeps temporary files". It's still usually called disk space, even when you have an SSD - which isn't a disk at all! Some call it storage, but this starts to get confusing. 

 

To find out how much memory (RAM) you have in Windows 10, right click on the Start button and choose SYSTEM. You see something like this:

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Thank you so much for the excellent help, i really find it very helpful , i have checked and it shows 8.00 GB (7.36 GB usable)  thanks again.

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