need help customizing RAW workspace after update

[janetm62681729]

hi.  can someone assist please.  after updating to latest Camera RAW they have added DENOISE section (which incidentally i find useless-i don't know any editor who has two minutes per photo to "denoise") the different tab sections (Color, Light, etc) are all moved down. so now i have to scroll down for every jpg i edit to get to the noise reduction section.  

alternately, can one move a tab group higher up?  see pix. would like to move the noise section higher up above "Effects". i dont use the lower editing tools and if i could move these sections (or delete ones I do not use) I would not have to scroll down for every jpg. thanks 

[Trevor.Dennis]

Hi Janet.  I'm sorry, but we can't reorganise thos ACR groups at this time, and I agree it is a pain as things stand. 

Have you looked at the settings?  (The cog icon in top right corner.)

I've switched to Multiple, which keeps the groups twirled open, so I just need to scroll up and down with the mouse wheel.

I have also, just this minute, tried Use Compact View but I am not sure how things have changed so far.  Something to try maybe, but like you, I am not a fan so far.

[janetm62681729]

thanks i ll try these.  just saw that in a post yesterday..  i would think it would be easy for adobe to make those sections movable. or hide them completely... i am sure im not the only one who doesnt use many sections... 

[Jeff Arola]

There are a few things you do:

1. Right click on one of the Panels, click Edit Panels to Show, then highlight a Panel and use

   the up or down arrow keys on your keyboard to move the panel.

2. Turn off/on the checkmarks in the Edit Panels to Show to hide or show panels

3. To have panels stay open all the time instead of always having reopen them, click on

     Multiple Panel Mode

[janetm62681729]

hey jeff. thank you so much for answering. the community can be amazing as adobe couldnt tell me how to edit the order of the panels. so it is great that i can do this and am so close to solving my problem. however -see attached the DENOISE tab still takes up about an inch and i still have to scroll down to use normal noise reduction.. see attached. any chance you know how to eliminate or get rid of that.    i cant imagine many are using this feature and it shouldnt be in this section in my opinion. specialized feature that takes minutes to work. ThANKS jeff

[Jeff Arola]

I'm not aware of anyway to compact that Denoise space.

Most likely Adobe has it that way so to be easily discoverable by users.

I use Denoise quite a bit with older Nikon nefs from the D100 and wow does it make a difference, so having a modern fast computer really makes a difference.

As an example, a 2012 MacBook Pro i have running macOS Monterey 12.7.2 with photoshop 2024 takes

around 20 to 30 minutes to use Denoise, where as my 2022 Mac Studio running macOS Sonoma 14.2.1 or my Windows 10 desktop with similar specs only takes seconds.

Now if Adobe would make it so Denoise worked that well with camera scanned film, that would be excellent.

[D Fosse]

Now if Adobe would make it so Denoise worked that well with camera scanned film, that would be excellent.

By @Jeff Arola

Actually I did some experiments with that, and it doesn't do anything to film grain. It's completely ignored. It apparently recognizes sensor noise patterns, and manages to keep that separate from image detail - which of course is exactly what scanned film grain is. That's probably why it produces such stunningly good results.

[Trevor.Dennis]

Wow Jeff.  That's a good find.   I don't process many RAW files nowadays, but ACR is still my most used filter because of its one-stop-fix-all ability, and like Janet, I have not been liking the new look, so I am looking forward to streamlining ACR.  Do we know if we can save different layouts with custom workspaces?

[Jeff Arola]

Doesn't look like acr has the ability to save the panel layout as of 16.1

[D Fosse]

DENOISE section (which incidentally i find useless-i don't know any editor who has two minutes per photo to "denoise")

By @janetm62681729

Just to set the record straight on this point - it will take several minutes with an old and underpowered GPU (or not even work at all).

With a newer GPU it will typically take 10-15 seconds. Not instant, but this is an AI-based and very compute-intensive operation that puts high demands on the GPU. The result on high-noise images is vastly superior to traditional noise reduction.

If you close that section and open the old noise reduction, you won't see it again.

[c.pfaffenbichler]

The result on high-noise images is vastly superior to traditional noise reduction.

Which likely will be most relevant for photographs taken under weak lighting, with high ISO, …

[janetm62681729]

hi i am old older computer but it definitely took way over a minute. can you imagine an editor adding 2 min to every jpg edit?  anyway can you please elaborate what you said about the 'denoise' tab.. i opened photo, applied Denoise, closed the tab section and opened again and it looks the same.. see photo. pls help if there is a way to hide or remove this as it is slowing down my work load tremendously. thanks

[c.pfaffenbichler]

hi i am old older computer but it definitely took way over a minute. can you imagine an editor adding 2 min to every jpg edit? 

Are you editing jpgs instead of RAW files? 

Please explain your actual workflow. 

[D Fosse]

Here is the old noise reduction:

If you don't have a GPU capable of running Denoise efficiently, it's probably not worth the effort. Then you should use the old and traditional noise reduction.

In any case, Denoise only has a real advantage on very noisy images, say, ISO 5000 and up. It was never intended to be used on all images. It's a last resort when traditional noise reduction isn't enough.

[janetm62681729]

thanks but my post is about how to hide or remove it from my side panel.....