Photoshop malfunctioning since updating mac to Ventura.

[ellen-kidpik]

Hi I'm wondering if someone can help me. I updated my computer to Ventura on Friday, since then, Photoshop has been acting all kinds of wonky. It jumps around and occasionally I get a green screen (see my attachment) for awhile. I have the latest update on the Photoshop. Illustrator is running fine, but Photoshop has been affected. 

 

[J453]

If you quit and relaunch Photoshop, does the green screen/jumpiness go away?

[ellen-kidpik]

No, it doesn't go away. I even let the computer sit all weekend with Photoshop unused and it's still acting up. 😞

[J453 · Accepted solution]

It may help if we could see your Photoshop System Info. Launch Photoshop, and select Help >System Info...and copy/paste the text in a reply.

Then try the following:

1) Go to Preferences > Technology Previews... and check "Disable Native Canvas" - then restart Photoshop. Does the problem still occur?

2) If 1 doesn't work, go to Preferences > Performance... and uncheck Use Graphics Processor.

[ellen-kidpik]

I'll try that now. Thanks!

[ellen-kidpik · Accepted solution]

It worked. I did the first option "disable native canvas". Thank you so much!!!

[Mark.Dahm]

Anybody having this issue, can you please share your Photoshop Help>System info? The green canvas here suggests a problem with Photoshop hanging onto the GPU.  Turning off the native canvas turns off Metal for Photoshop, and is not an ideal workaround.

The GPU might be flakey for a number of reasons:

• hot-plugging in monitors to a laptop mid-session (using Photoshop)

• bad upgrade; the GPU drivers are embedded with the operating system update, and bad driver installs can happen; reinstalling the OS could repair that

• failure to restart the system after installation

• bonkers preferences file

• Old GPU

• Low memory on the GPU

System Info, if you can share it, can help us zero in on what could be suspect on your system; thanks for any data you can share!

[ellen-kidpik]

If it helps anyone here is my info.

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Projects: 1.4.8 Loaded at: 238 ms - launch time impact: 37 ms ccx-timeline (Prepared) 3.1.2.0 - from the file "Required Folder" CCX Commenting UXP Webview (Loaded) 25.5.1.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 9811 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms CCX Sharesheet UXP (Prepared) 23.19.4.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Share Panel (Loaded) 1.0.5.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 240 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Free Skin Beauty Retouch (Prepared) 1.1.0.0 - from the file "Plugin Market Place" CC Libraries Panel (Prepared) 3.21.13.0 - from the file "/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CEP/extensions/CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_21_13/" CAPTURE: 2.0.41 STOCK: 4.0.2 Substance 3D (Prepared) 0.1.5.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Photoshop UXP Export-As (Prepared) 5.8.15.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Photoshop In App Messaging (Loaded) 2.7.5.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 9811 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Photoshop Selection Feedback (Prepared) 0.5.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Plugins Panel (Prepared) 1.4.3.0 - from the file "Required Folder" IC popup message (Loaded) 1.0.0.0 Loaded at: 9607 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Multilayer Protection (Loaded) 1.0.0.0 Loaded at: 9607 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Discover Panel (Loaded) 2.10.0.41 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 9812 ms - launch time impact: 12 ms Photoshop Cloud Value Dialog (Loaded) 1.0.1.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 10010 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Content Credentials (Registered) 0.32.22.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Neural Filters (Registered) 1.14.7.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Extensions: Libraries 1.0.0 - from the file “/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CEP/extensions/CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_21_13/index.html” Pantone Connect 1.0.4 - from the file “/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CEP/extensions/com.pantone.v1.1.app/html/index.html” com.adobe.stock.panel.licensing-embedded 1.0.0 - from the file “/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CEP/extensions/CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_21_13/extensions/stock-panel-licensing/index.html” com.adobe.capture.extension 2.0.41 - from the file “/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CEP/extensions/CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_21_13/extensions/capture/capture.html” Export As 4.8.15 - from the file “/Applications/Adobe Photoshop 2023/Adobe Photoshop 2023.app/Contents/Resources/CEP/extensions/com.adobe.photoshop.crema/index.html” Fontself Maker 3.5.7 3.5.7 - from the file “/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CEP/extensions/com.fontself.maker.v2.photoshop/launcher.html” Export As 4.8.15 - from the file “/Applications/Adobe Photoshop 2023/Adobe Photoshop 2023.app/Contents/Resources/CEP/extensions/com.adobe.photoshop.crema/index.html” com.adobe.cclibraries.manager 1.0.0 - from the file “/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CEP/extensions/CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_21_13/manager.html” Installed TWAIN devices: NONE

My problem got fixed by following Jefferey's advice above.

[Mark.Dahm]

Thanks @ellen-kidpik , your GPU is good, though a bit on the slower side. The card is from 2018 or so, and the drivers are maintained directly by Apple in their Operating system and security updates. The only way to reinstall them, if needed, is to reinstall the system software.

So I would expect the native canvas to work in Photoshop with your GPU, and if you are getting green screens, the resolution may be something other than turning off support for Metal in Photoshop (what that 'Deactivate native canvas' button does). For the most part, Photoshop should run fine under this configuration, so what I would do is, after the next time you run an Apple system update, flip that checkbox back to see if the issue is resolved by the update.

[Josef28475283wmyf]

Hi Mark, what is known about the compatibility of Adobe Photoshop Elements 2021 with OS Ventura 13.2.1 ?

[Mark.Dahm]

@Josef28475283wmyf , unfortunately I don't know what the compatibility situation is for Photoshop Elements. There is a separate forum for that, and you can ask there.

[Bob Travis]

Ver. 23.5 works fine with M1 graphic processor turned on. Why does it need to be turned off in Ver. 24? Is this a bug that will be fixed?

[J453]

@Bob Travis version 24 should work fine with an M1. What issue are you seeing?