Remove lines from a photo

New Here ,
Jun 18, 2022 Jun 18, 2022

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Is there a way to remove "lines" from a photo taken of a newspaper (I think) portrait? I believe my wife shot a newsprint picture and I would like to clear up all the clutter so we can use them in a book. We have permission to use these photos.

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Jun 18, 2022 Jun 18, 2022

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Hi @Northporter, Sure, it can be done, but not instantly. Is your attachment the only file you have to work with, or is there a larger file? This one would only be able to print (if it's a print book) at a size of about 2.5 x 3.5 inches. I colorized it to see where the most work needs to be done, which is in the beard, suit, and forehead. It's easy to select the subject and replace the background with a neutral gray or anything else. If you still have the newspaper, a better way to go might be to scan the sheet at a high resolution, so you have something better to start with. Then, it's going to be rebuilding the various areas using a variety of tools.

 

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Enthusiast ,
Jun 18, 2022 Jun 18, 2022

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AFAIK, they recommend to scan with sheets of plastic in-between. This can already blur it to a nice degree. It's the advice I followed "way back when"... OTOH, he's not specifically asking about descreen, I just suspect that's part of the problem he means to describe.

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Enthusiast ,
Jun 18, 2022 Jun 18, 2022

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Probable keywords here are descreen and moiré...

There are plugins to descreen, but some may not work anymore, others are commercial.

I only tried the descreening with the first tut (and added Neural Filters Dejpg on top). I left the moiré... 😉

- Easy way to de-screen a printed image using Adobe PS filters

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTUvFdGgBnY
- How to remove the screen from printed material using an FFT PS Filter

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du6ENFLAoF4  [FFT plugin may not work on current PS]

- [$16 plugin] www.descreen.net/eng/soft/descreen/descreen.htm

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Community Expert ,
Jun 18, 2022 Jun 18, 2022

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Removing Moire in Photoshop/Camera Raw

 

 

Nancy O'Shea, Product User & Community Expert
Alt-Web Design & Publishing ~ Web : Print : Graphics : Media

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Enthusiast ,
Jun 18, 2022 Jun 18, 2022

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Slider is greyed out, so I suspect it's for color moiré only.

Or I'm doing something wrong, or it is not really moiré.

If the slider worked, I suspect it would still be useless on the original.

It's a good one for Neural Filters someday...

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Slider becomes active on the colorized version, but seems indeed useless here...

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Community Expert ,
Jun 18, 2022 Jun 18, 2022

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Newsprint contains halftone patterns.  To suppress repeating patterns, try this Photoshop plugin which is essentially an FFT (Fast Fourier Transform) filter.

http://ft.rognemedia.no/

 

Nancy O'Shea, Product User & Community Expert
Alt-Web Design & Publishing ~ Web : Print : Graphics : Media

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Enthusiast ,
Jun 18, 2022 Jun 18, 2022

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Helps a little... (used aggressive option here) — esp. to make things worse 😉

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Community Expert ,
Jun 18, 2022 Jun 18, 2022

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Such repeating patterns need to be evaluated at 100% (1:1) view. You may find this thread helpful for colour images, but not for greyscale:

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-discussions/i-need-help-with-an-edit/m-p/12447164

 

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Community Expert ,
Jun 19, 2022 Jun 19, 2022

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I came across this video and she explains it very well.

https://youtu.be/Sapk6qASxrM

 

Lee- Graphic Designer, Print Specialist, Photographer

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New Here ,
Jun 24, 2022 Jun 24, 2022

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Sorry I haven't been able to reply to the help suggestions. I've been dealing with Microsoft about some issues. and by the time I'm done I'm completely "computer frazzled" and  can't deal with any more problems. Add to that trying to solve some internet issues and it's almost overwhelming. I plan to try some suggestions this weekend depending on what we do with the grandkids. They'll be here for the weekend, which takes precedent over anything else. I'll post the results when I can.   

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New Here ,
Jun 24, 2022 Jun 24, 2022

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I forgot to add Thanks! for the help.

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Community Expert ,
Jun 27, 2022 Jun 27, 2022

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Hi @Northporter 

If I may offer a suggestion. Most of the answers here are offering cures to the problem.

You may however be able to avoid the problem alltogether.

As Benjamin Franklin famously advised fire-threatened Philadelphians in 1736 that

“An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.” Clearly, preventing fires is better than fighting them

 

Fixing that image is certainly firefighting 😉

 

Since you say your wife shot a newsprint image, I'm assuming that you still have the clipping and

that you wife used a phone or digital camera of some sorts?

 

So simply put: the regular patterns you see in the image that you don't want are caused by:

the newpaper printing process and it's interference with the camera pixels.

The screen in the newspaper print is at a certain angle.

The solution to try is to take a picture of the newspaper clipping at an angle and not straight up and down as you would instinctively do.

So try photographing it at 45 degrees and at 30 degrees and see it that helps. ( or try others )

If that helps it's easy to remove the angle in photoshop.

You could also try changing the distance from the clipping as that will also affect the interference pattern.

 

If you used a scanner, the same principle applies: scan at an angle

 

I first learned of this technique from Dan Margulis in his book Photoshop LAB Color, 2006 edition, page 240 which also has a recipe for reducing these artifacts.

This page from 2002! has more technical detail:

https://www.ledet.com/margulis/ACT_postings/ColorCorrection/ACT-moire.htm

 

Best regards, Euan.

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Jul 01, 2022 Jul 01, 2022

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Did you have any success with any of these methods?

 

Best regards, Euan.

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New Here ,
Jul 01, 2022 Jul 01, 2022

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I've worked on this off and on when I can. I can make some changes but it's not something i'm happy with so i start all over. It just dawned on me to write what I do. I haven't been so I'm probably doing the same thing over and over and over. I'm going to try to get another copy of the portrait. It's not a clipping we have. I think the local historical society has it. I'll still try making something we can use. 

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LEGEND ,
Jul 01, 2022 Jul 01, 2022

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One thing to consider: retouching the image is a form of modification, even to clean up moiré. Be sure this is appropriate for the audience of the book (academic vs. casual for example). Colorization is especially controversial, but I assume you aren't considering this. Arguably the best thing it to take a very accurate scan of it and exactly reproduce the black and white (DON'T SCAN IN GREYSCALE OR COLOUR). So long as your print process is better than the original newspaper, this should produce something as clear as it can be, and authentic.

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Jul 01, 2022 Jul 01, 2022

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Thanks for the advice about scanning it in black and white. I'll try to remember that when we rescann. 

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