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I don't want to spend more than $3,000 for this laptop.
I'll also be using this laptop for Dreamweaver, Flash, and Illustrator.
Any advice regarding suites - Design Premium v Web Premium?
I'm getting into web development after being out of commercial art and design for 15 years.
Thanks.
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You can get a great laptop from Cyberpower PC that will run Photoshop. You need to follow some basic requirements as far as RAM and CPU. My article here: http://robertoblake.com/blog/2011/07/building-a-photoshop-cs5-computer/ has some good general information on what you need. Here are the basics though.
Try to make sure that the Hard Dive is 5400-7200 RPM, at least 500GB, 4-8GB of RAM, try to avoid integrated video if you can help it, 1GB video is ideal but you can live with 512MB Processor: Dua
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You can get a great desktop for $1000 or so, but don't know much about laptops.
To get an computer for what you want many advise having at least 3 internal drives, a good video card, and probably 16 gigs of memory or more.

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Thanks for your help, Curt.
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You can get a great laptop from Cyberpower PC that will run Photoshop. You need to follow some basic requirements as far as RAM and CPU. My article here: http://robertoblake.com/blog/2011/07/building-a-photoshop-cs5-computer/ has some good general information on what you need. Here are the basics though.
Try to make sure that the Hard Dive is 5400-7200 RPM, at least 500GB, 4-8GB of RAM, try to avoid integrated video if you can help it, 1GB video is ideal but you can live with 512MB Processor: Dual-Quad Core at 2.0GHz or better.
Your going to want a very portable external Hard Drive, not just for Backup but to set as you Photoshop Scratch Disk, I recommend it be SSD (Solid State Drive)
I highly recommend picking up this laptop: http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Xplorer_X6-9200_Gaming_Notebook/
Quad Core, 8GB RAM 2.2-3.0GHz maximum processor speeds, 2GB NVIDIA Graphics, 640GB Hard Drive, all for under $900
You see gaming computers are perfect for Photoshop, the power required to run most advanced games far exceeds the resources necessary to run Photoshop and other Adobe applications well. This should be all you need and more.

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Wow! Thank you very much for your response, RobertoBlake.
I thought your article you linked to was very specific and helpful, particularly the Nikon information.
Apparently I will be doing some "Serious Photoshop".
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Happy to help Darryl. I'll probably use the information I gave you to write up an article on the Perfect Photoshop Mobile Office or something like that, I may need to break it up into parts of a series or something.
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Roberto has given you a wealth of information, the only area I would suggest caution is in the use of SSD's; I've been using them for a couple of years now and have installed 2 of them in my latest desktop build; I won't go back to a mechanical drive for my OS and apps! As far as Bang-for-your-$ is concerned, SSD's are the best investment you can make as far as performance is concerned, but you do have to be careful that the system is optimized to use them.
The biggest concern with SSD's is that they literally wear out, just like an LP record or cassette tape, as you use them. What wears them is writing to them; each individual memory cell in the drive has a finite number of write cycles it can go through before it "dies" and becomes read only. Reading does not affect the life of the drive in any way, so the optimum set-up is to have an SSD as your OS and Applications drive, that way once you've installed your OS - I'm assuming you'll be using Win7 64 Bit - and your applications, most of the activity will be reads.
Again I'm assuming you'll have at least one SSD and one 7200rpm mechanical drive in your notebook; to minimise the number of writes to the SSD I would suggest that after you install your OS you move your "Profile" to the spinner, all the temporary log files, internet files, cookies etc etc etc that Windows generates, as well as downloads, follow your profile and so won't be written to the SSD. Google is your friend here, and a quick search will show you how to do this.
For the same reason, I actually installed my Antivirus suite on one of my spinners as it updates itself endlessly, and given that it runs in the background I don't care how fast or slow it is! LOL! SSD's are insanely complex in their operation, and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write_amplification is a fantastic article that will give you a good insight into the core technologies and principles used in their operation.
Given all that I've just said, using an SSD as a scratch disk for Photoshop is obviously not a good idea(!), but I'm doing exactly that on my new build as I mentioned. I am in the process of "recycling" my original OS/Apps SSD as a Photoshop scratch disk; this will speed up Photoshop itself by orders of magnitude, and it will be interesting to see how long it lasts! LOL!
SSD's are all about speed, so using them externally is a problem; your connection will be the bottleneck in the system. I recently saw a demonstration where a 16GB movie file was transferred off an external SSD drive into a Macbook Pro via the Thunderbolt connection in under 1 minute!!! As far as I know, Intel have yet to license the Thunderbolt technology to any Windows OEM's, so I would suggest you get a notebook, and external SSD, with a USB 3 connection; the relative speeds are as follows...
e-SATA: 300MB/s
USB 3: 625MB/s
Thunderbolt: 1.25GB/s (Bi-directional!)
Wow, I didn't mean to go on at this length, but I have one final suggestion as follows; if you do go the external SSD Photoshop scratch disk route, please make sure that the SSD you use does not have a Sandforce controller. Again, this is all horribly complex, so some Googling on the subject will help you; basically the controller is where the "magic" happens in an SSD, not the actual NAND flash chips themselves. The fastest drives out there use Sandforce controllers, but they will slow down, in cases to almost spinner speeds or even worse, if they have to handle data that cannot be compressed, such as - you guessed it! - image files, movies, and music!
Good luck!
Paul

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Thank you very much, pf22.
Because of your post I learned about solid state drives (SSD) and other technical things.
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see a "helpful" button to click on.
Thank you very much, Jeffrey Tranberry.
I thought the technical information in the articles you linked to was well written and relatively easy for me to understand and research a little further.
Maybe I missed it, but again I didn't see a "helpful" button to click on for your post.
I sincerely appreciate all the generous sharing of information here.
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No problem Darryl, I work in IT Sales and this rush to promote SSD's by the OEM's - "Hey, look at this... SHINEY!!!" - whilst doing nothing to educate people to this fantastically complex and still relatively expensive technology, is one of my pet peeves! LOL!
Here's a couple of other general pointers for you if you do go the SSD route...
- Do not Index the SSD, you'll just slow it down! LOL!
- Never defragment the SSD, you'll actually wear it out quicker; SSD's by their nature write data to themselves in a highly fragmented manner. (You'll need to Disable the Windows defragmenting Service.)
- If you do need to reinstall your OS do not "reformat" the drive; you need to run a special procedure called a "Secure Erase;" once again you can check this out online, or the manufacturer who's drive you buy will probably have instructions on their own site.
SSD's are a tweakers dream, you can spend hours fully optimizing your system once the OS is installed, but the above 3 items, as well as moving the Profile to a degree, are what I would consider "critical."
There are people out there who benchmark the devices to death - which will actually degrade performance for anything up to a week depending on how bad the "Torture Tests" are - but, as long as I can boot Win7 in 10 seconds, and open Photoshop in 2 seconds, why would I care about a bunch of synthetic benchmark figures?!?!?! As someone commented on a support blog... stop worrying about the (Benchmark) numbers and just enjoy the speed!!! LOL!
Good luck with your new system
Paul

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"Roberto has given you a wealth of information, the only area I would suggest caution is in the use of SSD's"
Not really sure why you would say that, I have both a Laptop and a PC with SSD's, both have Window's 8 and 16GB of Ram and 1GB and 2GB video's repectfully and the Laptop has another Normal Hard Drive which I use for storage of everything and a separate partition for the scratch disk. I only have Apps and the OS installed on the SSD and let Windows 8 look after the SSD for me, only thing I did was move the pagefile to the Normal Hard drive, althought that's not really necessary if you have sufficent Ram installed.
According to SSDLife my SSD is good until 2022 and I have this drive installed for the last three years. I use Photoshop CS6 extended extensively among many other apps, I really don't think there is any worries about read and write operations with SSD's
I don't save anything onto the SSD as I have another drive for that on the Laptop.
Just my thoughts
Gedstar
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How to tune Photoshop CS5 for peak performance: http://adobe.ly/PSCS5_Performance
How to set up a great Photoshop machine: http://adobe.ly/918Vep
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UPDATE FOR PHOTOSHOP CC (Also could be applied to Photoshop CS6)
Currently Photoshop CC is known to work in Current Mac OSX Windows7 and Windows 8 without any major issues. However in general if you are planning on Buying a Photoshop Laptop I have some recommendations you should keep in mind:
- Current operating systems and background processes plus a web browser can use as much as 2-3GB of Ram alone, Adobe Bridge can use a lot of Ram sometimes as well. While you can get by on 4GB I highly recommend 6-8GB as a minimum for working in Photoshop and closing all other apps including the web browser if at all possible.
- Try to get a laptop with dedicated video graphics rather than shared. The new Mercury performance engine is designed to take some the burden off the processor and ram by utilizing the GPU and OpenGL.
- Try and get a laptop with more than one hard drive if possible, or swap the optical drive for a SSD.
- 3D objects when rendered in Photoshop will take up a lot of processing power, make sure you have Dual Core processors at 2.0GHz or better, Quad Core processors are ideal though. I recommend the i7 and a i5 as minimum requirement.
More information is available on my blog post here: http://robertoblake.com/blog/2013/06/thoughts-on-buying-a-photoshop-cc-laptop
I hope this helps.

