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Advocate ,
Feb 03, 2025 Feb 03, 2025

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Need one for those "armchair commentors" who don't add to the conversation with their mornic replies that do not add to the solve what so ever!

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Community Expert , Feb 03, 2025 Feb 03, 2025

@Todd_Morgan 

 

This was discussed a few years ago. Adobe staff decided it could be misused and vetoed it. 

 

We do get spammers and those who use ChatGPT to give misleading "answers". When you see those, you can click the Report button so it will be reviewed by staff and/or post (with a link) to the Using a Community forum for review. The volunteer moderators do try to catch these!

 

Jane

 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 03, 2025 Feb 03, 2025

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@Todd_Morgan 

 

This was discussed a few years ago. Adobe staff decided it could be misused and vetoed it. 

 

We do get spammers and those who use ChatGPT to give misleading "answers". When you see those, you can click the Report button so it will be reviewed by staff and/or post (with a link) to the Using a Community forum for review. The volunteer moderators do try to catch these!

 

Jane

 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 05, 2025 Feb 05, 2025

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Adobe staff decided it could be misused 

I share that apprehension. 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 05, 2025 Feb 05, 2025

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OK. How do I say this. Many posters here have already made up their minds about who or what is to blame for any given inconvenience. That may not always be in accordance with the actual facts of the matter. Let me just say, that will generate a lot of downvotes.

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 05, 2025 Feb 05, 2025

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With all due respect maybe user are tired of some Community Experts and armchair commentors giving snarky and arrogant "answers" such as "why would you want to change 'X' feature on a software it's always been that way" to shut down any further discussion on ways software can be improved. It almost sounds like Community Experts are afraid of losing their power. I for one second the idea of adding a downvote button.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 05, 2025 Feb 05, 2025

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@Kenneth31800525ydjw 

 

See my earlier reply in this thread for how to report people (including volunteers in the system tagged as community experts.)

 

This post is in Ideas and will be seen by staff. Adobe Staff makes the final decision. Previously they vetoed it.

 

Jane

 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 05, 2025 Feb 05, 2025

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»With all due respect maybe user are tired of some Community Experts and armchair commentors giving snarky and arrogant "answers" such as "why would you want to change 'X' feature on a software it's always been that way" to shut down any further discussion on ways software can be improved. It almost sounds like Community Experts are afraid of losing their power. I for one second the idea of adding a downvote button.«

What »power« do you imagine Community Experts have?

Any poster (no matter whether Community Experts or not) can make their point, if others disagree they can try to refute their arguments etc. 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 06, 2025 Feb 06, 2025

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@c.pfaffenbichler replied to @Kenneth31800525ydjw -

 

"What »power« do you imagine Community Experts have?"

 

Community Experts are bound by rules that others are not, which some might say is less "power", whatever that is. :]

 

"Any poster (no matter whether Community Experts or not) can make their point, if others disagree they can try to refute their arguments etc"

 

I'm in favour of having downvotes, I had perverse ironic joy in upvoting the downvote topic! ;/

 

Upvoting or downvoting actually fosters a less engaged conversation. Many can't be bothered to upvote, let alone take the extra effort to write something beyond a click of an upvote. Wouldn't a downvote be the same, too much extra work to click? Or would negative single-click engagement be more popular than positive?

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Community Expert ,
Feb 06, 2025 Feb 06, 2025

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@Kenneth31800525ydjw 

I'm a bit curious about what you mean by "armchair commenters". You do realize that most of us are professional users, using the software eight hours a day, having done that for maybe 15 or 20 years? Frankly, we know this stuff inside out. Yes, we may venture an opinion from time to time, but that opinion isn't coming from nowhere.

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Advocate ,
Feb 06, 2025 Feb 06, 2025

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Seems I opened a can of worms here. I, too, have been using the software since my days way back when 3DSMax was a DOS app (on five hundred floppies) and Framemaker was glorious. My comment "armchair commentators" has nothing to do with your experience, but has everything to do with your opinion - mostly from "experts'" replies that do not add any value to the post other than a condescending attitude percieved by those posting questions. Instead of "Now why would you want to do that?" try either nothing or an answer that can help. Remember, opions are like [Removed by moderator]... everyone has one. Rant over...

 

HEY I JUST NOTED I AM AN ADVOCATE NOW!! HOW APPROPRIATE!

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Feb 06, 2025 Feb 06, 2025

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I'm not going deeper into this rabbit hole, but I just want to point out that there are often very good technical reasons why "you might not want to do that". When those reasons are evidently not known or understood by the poster, we say so.

 

 

 

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Feb 06, 2025 Feb 06, 2025

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Sometimes posters inquire about features/tools that are far from ideal considering the result they are actually trying to achieve. 

So the question »why would you want to do that?« appears to be perfectly sensible in many cases. 

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Advocate ,
Feb 06, 2025 Feb 06, 2025

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Very true and I am not discounting those "supportive" comments as they help toward an end goal. Which I would assume is obvious...

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Feb 06, 2025 Feb 06, 2025

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But maybe those features should be implemented - and again, they post the "why would you want to do that?" in their OP, so again, if you don't have a solution, don't be a problem.

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