P: Allow 00 or Shift 00 to work when setting layer/fill opacity

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LEGEND ,
Apr 05, 2011 Apr 05, 2011

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currently there's no way to set layer or fill opacity to 0 via the keyboard. Pressing 00 should work but it doesn't.

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Adobe Employee , Apr 12, 2012 Apr 12, 2012
Implemented in Photoshop CS6.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 05, 2011 Apr 05, 2011

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Apparently it is a design decision from the UI team -- 00 would map to 100%, because otherwise there would be no shortcut for that.

So yeah, we need something else to get to 0%.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 05, 2011 Apr 05, 2011

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not really actually. 0 = 100, 00 = 0
same way that 2 = 20 and 02 = 2
What's the difference?

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LEGEND ,
Apr 05, 2011 Apr 05, 2011

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I'm just telling you what they specified.

I'm still looking at the code trying to figure out an alternative.
Yeah, I think I can make 0 and 00 behave differently.
Now to find a (Adobe) UI designer and see if they agree....

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LEGEND ,
Apr 05, 2011 Apr 05, 2011

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I'm a UI designer! I agree! 😉

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Participant ,
Apr 05, 2011 Apr 05, 2011

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I'd love to have a way to set 0%.

I'd be all for 0 as 100% and 00 as 0%. Or shift-0 as 0% (as it's used less) and 0 as 100% (as it is now).

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LEGEND ,
Apr 05, 2011 Apr 05, 2011

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Shift 0 sets Fill opacity to 100 (as with shift any number). So it can't be that. I really think that it should be 00 to make it consistent with the behavior of 01 = 1 and 1 = 10.

In the meantime, if you use Keyboard maestro I have an AppleScript that lets you set both fill opacity and layer opacity to 0, then you can assign whatever shortcut you want to it. I use the period key on numpad (and shift period for fill), but I wouldn't recommend that as a default.

Only reason I don't have it as 00 is because keyboard maestro doesn't support double key press as a trigger.

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Participant ,
Apr 06, 2011 Apr 06, 2011

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Yeah, good points. +1 on everything you said.

Out of curiosity, do you know “.” on the keypad used for anything?

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 06, 2011 Apr 06, 2011

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Chris, why is it always the most used application (Ps) that needs to relinquish its historical shortcuts in favor of the ones of the other apps, and not letting the users decide what set of shortcuts they want to use? Bridge could be the central location for that choice, as it was the case for Color Management.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 06, 2011 Apr 06, 2011

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Politics.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 06, 2011 Apr 06, 2011

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it's only used as a period really. So if you try to type 2.5 using the numpad, it'll type 2, set the opacity to 0 and type 5 😄

Since I rarely type numbers, and since I can still use the period key on the main keyboard, it's not really an issue for me personally.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 06, 2011 Apr 06, 2011

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Our UI designer approved the idea. Now I've got to find some QE to test it...

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New Here ,
Apr 07, 2011 Apr 07, 2011

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HInt from Heloise: I have found the period a great shortcut key for "print size." Assign it in the "keyboard shortcuts." (PC here) Crt+0, Crt+Alt+0, and now Crt+. put my popular zooms all in one easy location.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 15, 2011 Apr 15, 2011

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Double zeros is one of the best ideas yet. Makes perfect sense with the current numerical setup for percentages. Hit 0 once, 100%, hit 0 twice 0%, perfect toggle between the two extremes.

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Explorer ,
Mar 22, 2012 Mar 22, 2012

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Aaaand ... Photoshop CS6 has it! Great work Edward and the rest! Oh, and Chris and the team too! 🙂

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LEGEND ,
Mar 22, 2012 Mar 22, 2012

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You're welcome!

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Adobe Employee ,
Apr 12, 2012 Apr 12, 2012

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Implemented in Photoshop CS6.

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