P: Mirror Paint/Symmetric/Seamless Tile Paint Function

[davep61284792]

Photoshop could use a interactive Mirror Paint and Seamless edge/border painting function. Painter has had this feature for about 10 years now.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Id like to throw my hat in here as one of those requesting a symmetry tool feature in Photoshop! 🙂

[Giovanny Arce]

4 years ago...

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Come on guys....Still not in the loop ?
I decided to moved to CLIP STUDIO PAINT EX just for this feature , since it exists and it s just fantastic .. !!

Maybe in another release ?

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Having a toggle for texture tiling mode for layers and groups would be awesome! This is a feature I've wanted for a long time (for creating textures to use in 3D applications, matte paintings in Photoshop, and visual effects work in After Effects). There are so many uses for this and would be one more great reason for people to almost exclusively use Photoshop as their 2D image manipulation/creation software.

I just started using Krita for digital painting and they have a Wrap Around Mode. That is exactly what Photoshop needs.

[davep61284792]

Give up man. You are beating a dead horse. They don't care and are full of excuses. I actually think it is their code, they aren't able to do it because of the way it was written. Something like this is very simple, especially since every drawing app on the planet has this feature except for Photoshop.

[Dramenon]

Actually we do care.

Don't listen to, dav3 he just likes to grumble.
🙂

Dustin shoot me an email  [email address removed as per forum guidelines] I would like to get more info from you if you want to discuss further.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

So, do you have any news then ?

Is this functionnality (realtime symmetry, wrapping around, canvas repetition.. whatever it s called) planned ?

thanks for any feedback

[davep61284792]

I don't like to grumble. Everyone here from Adobe has been either:

1. rude
2. acting like a know-it-all
3. or full of excuses, with no real answers for the users.

Daniel, feel fee to reply to my emails. People have been asking for these simple features for years—literally. Photoshop doesn't seem to listen to professional 3d visual effects/video game artists, illustrators or concept artists.

Frederic, if you want better drawing tools, use a better drawing program like Sketchbook pro. They are really nice, responsive and the feel/feedback is a much better experience.

[Earth Oliver]

"People have been asking for these simple features for years—literally."

Years? Try decades.

[Dramenon]

Companies are not allowed to specify what will be available or time frames, sorry. But I have been having a lot of conversations on this subject.

1 > Please feel free to contact me with an example of a rude employee/response. So that I may slap a wrist :)
2 > But we do know it all with regards to this product and all that entails :)
3 > I dont recall ever giving you or anyone an excuse on this matter (or others) I try to tell you straight when possible.

I have replied to your emails.

I have never discouraged others form trying other products, I still believe in Photoshop as my favorite tool despite the others on the market. And I have used them all.

Oh we listen, plenty of examples of listening and doing. We converse *continually* with a variety of creatives that provide valuable feedback on this subject and many things.

Have a nice day

[davep61284792]

1 > Please feel free to contact me with an example of a rude employee/response. So that I may slap a wrist 🙂

>>Some of us are professional artists working and do not have time for finding these, or bothering with these forums.

2 > But we do know it all with regards to this product and all that entails 🙂

>> Maybe with the product, but not with the suite or needs of professionals, hence 3d even being a thought in Photoshop.

3 > I dont recall ever giving you or anyone an excuse on this matter (or others) I try to tell you straight when possible.

>> No, I just got an earful of the Adobe soapbox. Photoshop might be your favorite, but hardly represents the professional aspects of individual creative industries.

Has anyone seen Affinity? Give them a try. Their products are simple, clean and fast, not to mention cheap. They are up and coming... https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

It seems promissing, but it s still lack the symmetry tool 🙂

[styrias]

Chris Cox you have been very arrogant, rude and unwelcoming in a lot of your responses to user requests.

It seems like you are a bottleneck for feature requests, as you smash a lot of very profound requests by simply not understanding what the users mean/want.
For me this becomes specially appearent in the context of digital painting/illustration.
You don't seem to understand what users from this group need and just piss them off.

We as users feel very mistreated by your way of communicating and your arrogant attiitude.

[c.pfaffenbichler]

»We as users feel very mistreated by your way of communicating and your arrogant attiitude.«
I am a Photoshop user and I am in contrast grateful to Mr.Cox for contributing on this and other Fora and actually communicating with Photoshop users.
And I have not noticed arrogance in his posts so much as rather a commendable restraint.

[romantic_image0D4D]

Hi Photoshop team,
one of the coolest and smartest thing that Photoshop is missing is a tool that allows to draw with symmetry and radial mode, that exists on third party softwares as ArtRage and Sketchbook Pro.
Please think to add it to the the next update.
Thanx a lot.

Samy

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

This would be very useful for designing geometric tattoos/designs, playing cards (you know how the royal cards are mirror but in a complex way), and various other works of art.

You would select the kaleidoscope tool (or whatever it would be called) and start out by placing your Origin. Then, you can push dials to change how many Sectors will radiate from your Origin(one sector to a billion sectors), and whether you want it to mirror every other sector or not.

The layer that you placed the Origin on doesn't have anything else on it. It only applies the effect to the layers beneath it.

Also, you can choose between two settings: if you want a certain Sector to be the repeated Sector (to be the one copied into every other sector) or if you want every Sector to be copied onto every other Sector.

For the first setting, you could start with a blank layer under the kaleidoscope layer. Then, whenever you draw within the chosen sector, the drawing is reproduced in the other sectors in real time. If you draw outside the chosen sector, no mark is visible (until you remove the kaleidoscope layer).

For the second, anything you draw anywhere on the blank layer would be copied into every other sector. Obviously, this would be pointless if you have a completely filled layer.. it would be very useful though to design geometric tattoos or playing cards where you need to make sure a line will continue seamlessly from sector to sector.

What do you think!

[SergioBallesteros]

How about if Adobe implements Real-time Symmetrical Drawing once you define an axis (or some axes)?

Also, it would be nice to have also a Real-time smart-object result shown while editing the smart-object, without having to hit Cmd+S to see the changes on the original file.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

If the future - please post one suggestion per topic.

And Smart Objects don't update in realtime for several reasons -- you choose when to do all the heavy work by saving the child document and updating the parent document. Trying to update them in realtime would be incredibly slow and ruin the usefulness of Smart Objects.

[SergioBallesteros]

Well, Affinity Designer can. You can check the video here:

https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/desi...

Minute 1:40

So I think it's a matter of optimization and programming 😉 And almost every computer nowadays can handle that processing.

What is reaaaaally slow is to keep saving again and again to see updates, making the workflow slower. If you can check changes in real-time, THAT would save a lot of time instead of the method of trial & error.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

That doesn't have to deal with even 1% of the document complexity that Photoshop works with. Yes, they can get away with things because they work with relatively small, simple images.

No, it is not a matter of optimization -- Photoshop is simply doing a lot more work than you realize when you update a smart object in the parent document.

[Skyfish]

The lack of mirroring is literally the only reason I use Krita, the free open source photoshop competitor (for painting). Although brushes are more intuitive in krita too, if PS had mirroring, I'd never really bother using a second program. For gamejams I don't go to photoshop at all because almost everything has to tile.

It would be exiting to see photoshop have live mirroring and tiling. Krita only supports it for the painting, but I would like it for when I do transforms to things too, or add gradients/etc. basically just a mirrored rendering of whatever it is I do on one half of the canvas. If PS can show it to us once, why not twice, or more?

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Wow

this topic started 4 years ago.... for symmetry matters, I've already moved to clip paint studio (or others softs) since it allows me to save psd 🙂 compatible with photoshop . but I m still using photoshop after the design phase 🙂

I hope it won't take another 4 years to include this realtime / radial / symmetry .... feature ...

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Judging from how long it took them to implement the rotate canvas tool, I doubt we will be seeing this feature added any time soon.  I have to mention that Corel Painter has had both tools for over 10 years or more.

Come on Adobe answer your users who need this feature!  I would gladly pay for a plugin to be developed if someone just wants to bust it out.  I can't tell you how long I've been using the freaking offset tool.

[russian_box]

after years of getting these emails and being sick to see this NEVER be added to photoshop i finally reset my password (after the adobe hack) just so I could come here and unsubscribe from this topic,
Why can't I unsubscribe via email link without loggin in?

I'd also like to reach out to everyone who follows this topic like i did and let them know I have since stopped using Phothshop and now use a program called Manga studio (clip paint studio), Don't let the name fool you its actually a really good drawing program that has mirror painting and a LOT more features than photoshop (for digital drawing) Its paint tools are miles ahead of what photoshop tries to do Also take a look at Paint Tool SAI.

Its also very cheap and you can buy it and own it, NOT JUST RENT!

Show adobe that not adding basic art features to the industries most used drawing program is what will drive you away.

Good bye adobe, I won't miss you

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

omg adobe.  this is so simple. just give me a setting to make my brush pop to the other side of the canvas when I brush off of the other side.  so many drawing programs had this years ago. why don't you get it?