Photoshop: Problem with smudge tool and mixer brush for painting

[artema11057656]

The problem with mixing tools is that they work like water. When reapplied, it becomes even worse. And need to do as chorcoal and finger work in reality. He rubs the image and does not blur it, which gives control over the picture. The speed and efficiency of the work increases, and you do less action.

   I think the algorithm of the tools is different. I learned all the tool settings. I set small and large values in the settings, use the texture, the effect is the same.
To understand better you just need to paint with chorcoal and smudge with your finger. And draw in Photoshop with a mixer brush (smudge tool). You understand the difference, rubbing the chorcoal with your finger we get soft controlled transitions.

Below is a video for comparing the traditional artist and mine.

My videos:
https://youtu.be/fhXavmuy5fg
https://youtu.be/WMYBbQqJ5Do
Video Steve Huston: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7J5Zr9JsPk&t=4987s
Painting - Pastel 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Loj8Kt7TMG4&t=1572s

PS: Please show this letter to developers it is very important. I read photoshop community and forum and many people wanted to convey this idea.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Oh, that smudge is just hooooorible, it's ping infuriates me every crapping time...

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Yes yes yes!

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

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[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I hope they will fix it.

[Earth Oliver]

Hopefully some of the brush technology which Adobe has demo'd in their new iPad painting app will make it's way to Photoshop one day...

https://theblog.adobe.com/introducing-project-gemini/

[artema11057656]

Using the smudge tool and mixer brush you can’t work as well as in this video Steve Huston . Give it a try. You will see the image will be soapy. And then draw in the traditional version. And this physics must be transferred to the program.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

i like this idea and i will support it

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

i really want this tool to be fixed

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

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[artema11057656]

Video confirmation. Transitions and edges of tones, soap and water - they can not be controlled https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIEV38fsFAo

[Earth Oliver]

you problem isn't a problem, it's an idea. You need to reframe this issue as a feature request for a brush tool which is not the mixer or smudge, but something new.

[artema11057656]

If you compare how smudge tool and charcoal+finger(or paper) work in reality, then this is a problem. This is completely wrong. See my video above. If we talk about brush mixer - then yes now it works like oil. But can make this tool more practical. It is difficult to control, no one uses it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7mpCPRmQ1ch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQdfZcNqyDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg2TQnuc1Es
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Loj8Kt7TMG4&t=2074s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYEVSnlmj5I

[Earth Oliver]

The smudge tool in Ps is doing exactly what it's supposed to... It's been around for decades and was never meant to be an realistic "smudge" tool, so it's not "completely wrong". Again, if you're interested in a new tool which has specific behaviors, create a Feature Request for that new tool.

[artema11057656]

if I duplicate the topic will it change anything? Speed up process? I did not see that the developers responded to comment. Or are you the developer Adobe Photoshop ? Can we chat with you(skype)?

[Earth Oliver]

No, i'm not a developer, but i am a moderator and i've changed this posting to an "idea".

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Programs like painter and artstudio pro have a feature like the one you describe. In art studio pro it is under brushsettings/Wettnes/eage blur when you set it to max (Flat) it will give you a soft transition with good color mixing after you paint a color. I only use one brusch to paint an blend/smudge and it’s way better than photoshop brushes. It’s not really smudging like photoshop but blending colors and values.
Hope this helps, you should give it a try

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Programs like painter and artstudio pro have a feature like the one you describe. In art studio pro it is under brushsettings/Wettnes/eage blur when you set it to max (Flat) it will give you a soft transition with good color mixing after you paint a color. I only use one brusch to paint an blend/smudge and it’s way better than photoshop brushes. It’s not really smudging like photoshop but blending colors and values.
Hope this helps, you should give it a try

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Поддерживаю. Поменяйте уже наконец эту грёбанную настройку, дайте людям возможность рисовать без мата. 

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Fix pls...

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Please have a look at the issue, it's will be much userfriendly after fixing


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